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Why do former white nba players and scrubs get all the good management jobs?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by McGradyPwns, Jul 4, 2020.

  1. TimDuncanDonaut

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    Mark Jackson had to beat an extortion case from a stripper while back. It's good that he beat it, as no one deserves the blackmail. But dude did cheat on his wife (20+ years and four kids). Plus he's supposed to be a pastor.

    What he does in his own life is his own, but if he's leading the team, these type of distractions ain't good for an organization. Head coach reflects the team, media would eat these kind of scandals up. He also can't use the moral high ground during them pet talks or setting an example.

    Come playoff, opposing team sends a female persuasion to get playoff strategies. (j/k) For a head coaching job, Mark has some question marks. Due diligence and background check. Plus if he's really passionate about x/O's and coaching he could have landed an assistant position long ago. Jason Kidd, Lawrence Frank, PJ Carlesimo, lot of former head coaches later take assistant jobs. It's not 'beneath' them.

    From a basketball perspective, he seems old school, rigid even based on his TV analysis and game play-calling. Not sure if he's flexible to modern basketball. Probably good on a team with young players, who needs discipline.

    Kerr is so smug, so between the two, I rather Mark gotten the rings, but it's a what-if on what would have happened if Jackson stayed on.

    "mama there goes that man"
     
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  2. rcketsfan1

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    Being a great player a la Michael Jordan and being a great coach a la Doc Rivers are completely different things. There are similarities, but the difference between being an individual contributor who demands greatness from his peers is way different from being a pure manager who demands greatness of his direct reports. Experience as a competent contributor in the NBA is all that matters IMHO in terms of being a coach.

    Can you imagine your direct manager, let's call him Michael Jordan, questioning your man hood and worth as a person on a nightly basis? Would you like working for that person who constantly re-constitutes his prior glories in comparison to your mortal accomplishments as an NBA player just trying to win a division crown?

    On the other hand, think about the alternative: a role player on a championship team whose role on the team was for energy and comprehension of the game plan. He is now your coach, he's excited and he's ready to elevate you to a level he as a player never even came close to.

    -rcketsfan1
     
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    Lol at this thread
     
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  4. LCAhmed

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    First of all, Jacques Vaughn is black.


    Also I've always thought that the reason these players tend to get into management and coaching positions is because they weren't blessed with talent so they had to work harder to keep up, or to just make the league to ride the bench. These players likely put in more work than most superstars just to ride pine, which translate into knowing the effort needed to stay in the league, knowing the mentality of different players and how they'll act on and off the court, as well as understand when someone just doesn't have the gene. MJ is the GOAT on the floor, but off the floor he's been a terrible assessor of talent and personality. Bird was decent, Isiah Thomas was terrible, Jason Kidd terrible, etc. Majority of the time, these Superstars just seem to have a disconnect. They know what worked for them with their talent, but fail to understand how to help those with less, or how to translate their skills without just having that touch or that niche. That's just my 2 cents. Back up PG always seemed to be the most likely position to translate, similar to Backup QB in Football.
     
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    Is this thread real life? Or just fantasy?
     
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    Calvin Booth?
     
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    OP said Karl Malone chops wood . Good stuff
     
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  8. Deckard

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    It's from all that time parked on the bench, OP, watching the games and hearing the coaches curse the guys on the floor and the refs.
     
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    Their lack of skills made them have to use their brains!
    Possibly also could be that it lead them wanting to fulfill what they couldn’t do while playing...
     
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  10. KingLeoric

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    I would say being a player that is not most physically talented actually forces u to approach the game more intellectually, which is an important quality of a coach.

    Also most players on ur team not going to be top talents. If u are a former great player u may think ur players can do the things u did and play the game same way u played which is not realistic.
     
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  11. jayland

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    Maybe most of the good NBA players turned coaches are role players and scrubs because they spent most of their career watching and analyzing the game on the bench, right next to the coaches. Thus giving them a lot of experience on how coaches operate. :D
     

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