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Trump's coronavirus response

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Two Sandwiches, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. Senator

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    Incredibly irresponsible for NY governor to balk at the idea of quarantine. China's dictatorial way of leading during these times is what allowed them to really cut the curve (and citizens who listen) and prevent 100k+ deaths.
     
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    Big part of why New Orleans and Louisiana are so hard hit - they had a million and a half people visit the city for Mardi Gras - from all corners of the world.

    You expect this result given those circumstances in those two locations.



    We're closing in on that window of time two weeks past the beginning of social distancing / isolation - we should start seeing dividends from that in the next week or so - hopefully. If not .... I don't know what to say other than prepare for the worst from the virus and from people. It could get really ugly.
     
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    NY was a timebomb. I read that at NYs population density you could fit the whole worlds population in TX. Paris is similar.
     
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    Too bad we don’t live in an autocratic dictatorship like Trump’s wishes we did.
     
  5. Senator

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    With stimulus, there's really no excuse for this. None at all. All we're asking people to do, including ourselves, is make a few sacrifices and make it through til May. It will go on much longer if they don't.
     
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    How is that helpful? Trump will be the king. Then you have Trump Jr...
     
  7. AleksandarN

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    I know. You need to ask @Senator thst question
     
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    Those grafts are outdated now. It is over 2000 people now
     
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    I don't disagree - with the stimulus , we shouldn't have chaos ..... but its a good idea to be prepared if it should devolve into that.
     
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    Like this!! Dam!! Lockdown means Lockdown in india!!
    That is scary, I would not want to go on road!!

     
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    Please show me where I said the travel restrictions were racist.

    You should apologize for making false attacks like this.
     
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    Made worse by acting too slow.

    NY might not end up being the worst on a per capital basis - as bad as they are, they have acted. There are still states and cities that we have little clues on whats going on. Just a lack of testing and potential hiding of info. FL is one that I’m thinking of. Some of their beaches are still pretty pack.
     
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    And here is an article on Florida. With 1 out of every 5 over the age of 65, they are heading for a major crisis if they won't act very soon.

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...cases-are-growing-fast-heres-what-that-means/

    The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in Florida is doubling every three days, putting the state on a trajectory to see tens of thousands of infections in the coming weeks, a Tampa Bay Times analysis shows.

    But at this point, experts say the math is simple. The number of cases is already past the point of easy containment and infections are growing faster and faster, at what statisticians call an exponential rate.

    Without dramatic steps, they worry that the epidemic will balloon across Florida and place an unprecedented strain on hospitals and health clinics.

    Thomas Hladish, a University of Florida research scientist who specializes in disease modeling and has been advising the state on the outbreak, said that while epidemiologists might disagree on the nuances of their projections, they all agree on the main point.

    “We do understand the math and the models well enough to say with great confidence that Florida is going to have a huge public health crisis,” Hladish said. “And we are just at the beginning of it right now.”

    By 11 a.m. Saturday, Florida had reported more than 3,700 cases — an increase of nearly 1,000 in 24 hours.

    Florida remains one of the few states with a large outbreak not to issue a statewide order to keep residents at home. Several counties across the state, including Hillsborough and Pinellas, issued “safer at home” orders in the last week.

    Some public health experts say it will take the more extreme step of shutting down the state to halt the disease’s rapid spread in Florida. Nine hundred Florida healthcare workers had signed a petition by Friday asking for the same thing.

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    Deaths, which climbed past 50 Saturday morning, take longer to appear in the data. The people who died recently were likely exposed to the virus in early March.

    “What we are seeing today is where the epidemic was three weeks ago,” said José Szapocznik, a professor of public health sciences at the University of Miami’s Miller School of Medicine.

    None of the information is captured if people with the disease aren’t tested.

    Even though providers across Florida ramped up testing last week, the state has performed only about 40,000 tests. New York leads the country with more than 146,000, according to the COVID Tracking Project.

    In Florida, as in the nation, the number of cases has grown almost perfectly in line with the number of tests, the Times analysis shows.

    Experts say the low volume of testing nationwide — and the fact that different states have different criteria for who they will test — has made it difficult to get a handle of the size of the epidemic and make state-to-state comparisons.

    Without more robust data in Florida, it’s impossible to know how many cases are actually out there.

    But knowing the reported numbers are an undercount doesn’t change the alarming shape of the state’s curve.

    On some recent days, reports of new cases in Florida have been accelerating as quickly as they were in New York. New York has become the epicenter of the outbreak in the United States. By Saturday afternoon, the state had logged more than 52,318 confirmed cases and 728 deaths.
     
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    Impossible. You’d run out of toilet paper.
     
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    So you have gone from China hater to praising china now?
     
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    Florida is like the toilet bowl in a ishstorm. An old population mixed with young Spring Breakers, beaches that aren't shut down. Throw in the lack of any kind of shutdown, and things are going to be really bad within a month.
     
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