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Ready The Clown Car: The First Batch of Democrats Are Ready To Announce Their 2020 Bids

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Jan 1, 2019.

  1. JuanValdez

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    I think there should absolutely be another debate, and the headliner should be coronavirus. Coronavirus will be the defining issue of the 2020 election.
     
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    So what would they be debating about with that as a topic?
     
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    The DNC announced 12 debates before any were held. So they owe everyone another debate. If they cancel the last one, especially with this situation going on, it is going to look very bad for them.

    Clearly the virus would need to be at the center of the issues they discuss. One would think the candidates would want to try to distinguish themselves based on this very important issue. Why would they not want to? Unless Joe Biden or his handlers feel like he is not up to it. And that is how it will look if they try to squirm out of participating in this last debate, especially under these circumstances.
     
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    The right level of crack down to control the spread of the virus, the right level of government intervention to expand our capacity to deal with patients, the best way to treat the economy to mitigate the recession/shorten the depression, the right foreign policy to prevent coronavirus outbreaks in other countries from hurting us here, how this crisis should inform what we should do about healthcare policy in the future as well as the social safety net. There's lots of stuff to talk about, lots of stuff where Biden and Sanders will probably sharply differ.
     
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    I don't think it'll actually hurt Biden at all if he does squirm out of it. I just think we have something pretty important to talk about now.
     
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    Shoulda woulda coulda been Yang yall
     
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    If he's smart he will have the debate.

    Anything to put him in the public spotlight is good for Biden.
     
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    I agree it could be very good opportunity for him to look presidential, getting press on the biggest story of the year. I think he's playing to not lose. And we know how that often goes.
     
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    Joe having to answer questions on the fly is not the best look right now. We need to limit that if he wants to win.

    I switched teams because the Republicans forgot about me when they crafted this stimulus.
     
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    How did they forget about you?
     
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    Ineligible.
     
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    For unemployment or for the cash? I don't think they have stated fully who is eligible or not yet.

    I am sorry to hear that but I am surprised it would cause you to switch sides. I hope you are going to be alright.
     
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    I don't think healthcare policy in the future is a good topic at this point and has no real bearing on this crisis and don't think either would turn over new ground.

    I think what to do with the economy would be a good topic but i don't really think either should inject themselves in the discussion at this point.

    I don't really think anything would be gained by more debates and who does not know that Sanders and Biden sharply differ?

    I am not saying there should not be any further debates but I don't think serve any real purpose except to give Sanders a platform and maybe help Biden keep somewhat sharp.

    I don't think anymore debates has a bearing on the D nomination.
     
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    The cash. I punched our numbers into the washington post cruncher and it displayed $0. So i dont agree with how this is being allocated. No big deal. And thank you, we will be alright.
     
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    Well, you don't have to watch the debate if you're not interested in hearing it. You can say it's an excuse to give Sanders another platform, but it sounds like you're mostly interested in protecting Biden from the volatility, so I guess it goes both ways.

    But, I agree with you that it isn't necessary for the Democratic nomination and that's not why I'm interested. I think it's an issue of national importance in which we need to sort out what we think. There will be debate between Biden and Trump eventually on what the future should be. But there is an unformed mass of thoughts even just on the liberal side that needs to be talked out. A debate is an opportunity to do some of that.
     
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    Protect Biden from the volatility?

    That's just about impossible.:D

    Biden does not owe Sanders a platform and both can disseminate their thoughts through other means.

    IMO at this point Biden should be focused on Trump and not debating Sanders for the soul of the democratic party.

    Sanders had 4 years to that and plenty of time before Biden entered the race, the people have spoken and there is nothing a debate can do to change that IMO.
     
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    I don't know why you're arguing with me. I don't care about Bernie Sanders. I care about coronavirus.
     
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    I am definitley not trying to argue, I thought we were just discussing the merits of more debates.

    Sorry if I came off as harsh.

    My entire point is that the virus is the most important thing and I don't think a debate helps anything.
     
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    As to the current effort of bending down the curve to avoid hospital system failure, candidates' opinions (except insofar as they might be senators) don't really matter. The only thing they can really do there is take shots at Trump. But, there is going to be questions to be addressed after that about what's next. How do we stop this from happening again. How can we be quicker in responding to emergencies. Are we really better off doing the occasional 2 trillion dollar bailout instead of making households and businesses more resilient all the time.

    And maybe it's too soon. Maybe people can't think about that stuff right now when they've completely run out of interesting shows to watch on Netflix. But I like to think about that stuff. Maybe I need to forget about the presidential politics and just start a new thread about the new merits of socialism.
     
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