Some of these numbers make it seem like it's ten times potentially worse than a normal flu. Relatively harmless (mathwise) to the young or healthy, but do you wish it on your parents or grandparents? Self isolating is good. The problem is the incubation period. So if you're at risk at work, it's self isolating plus 14 days at the moment you stopped going to work. Not entirely sure about people having it for 4 weeks. News changes all the time.
Greek CDC : All ICU and hospitalised have existing illnesses. Everyone is over 60 year olds except one who is 40. Journalist : What illness the 40 year old has? Greek CDC: He is overweight. Right. Everyone has some kind of existing illness except newborn babies according to CDCs.
In France for instance 40% of cases in ICU are under 40 -- this is a weird virus we still have much to learn about. It's becoming quite apparent that it's not just a threat to people 65+.
a little background info on OAN; OAN employs Kristian Brunovich Rouz, a Kremlin-paid journalist, originally from the Siberian city of Novosibirsk. He has been living in San Diego, where OAN is based, since August 2017, reporting on U.S. politics for the 24-hour news channel. For all of that time, he’s been simultaneously writing for Sputnik, a Kremlin-owned news wire that played a role in Russia’s 2016 election-interference operation, according to an assessment by the U.S. intelligence community. https://www.thedailybeast.com/oan-trumps-new-favorite-channel-employs-kremlin-paid-journalist
LOL... kremlin paid, writes for sputnik. Makes sense now... though the reporter asking the question was a woman. At least I think it was...
@Sweet Lou 4 2 Sorry about this comment Tito's was flowing last night Everyone be safe and stay healthy.
This will of course be an unpopular opinion, but the shutdown of society over this virus is absolutely ridiculous. We have no clue about the death rate of this virus since we don't know how many people are infected by it. We don't know the denominator. The cost of shutting down society is far worse than the results of the virus under more limited measures (e.g., shelter the elderly, hygiene measures). Going into a recession will drive unemployment rates well into double digits, and families won't be able to put food on the table. The public was duped once again by the media's hysteria and the academic shills who try to present themselves as all-knowing and cannot be challenged. Then it becomes a virtue signalling exercise to see who can social distance the best, totally wrecking the economy. Sadly, the most vulnerable in society - the working class who live paycheck to paycheck - will suffer the most.
According to some college students if you're on Spring Break and Post Malone is blasting it immediately disintegrates
So you are saying the whole entire planet is over reacting - including China, Japan, S Korea, Europe, etc...all because of the US media?
Yes, but you have to actually have tattoos on your face for full immunity -- the music alone provides a 68% reduction of infection.
No, We’re Not All Going to Have to Stay Home for 18 Months But Santelli did raise a question that isn’t going away: how do we know we aren’t doing ourselves more harm with the measures we take to slow or halt Covid-19 than the disease would do to us on its own? As Stanford medicine and statistics professor John Ioannidis, a rather more serious commentator, put it in an essay for the science news site Stat this week, after acknowledging that the coronavirus could kill tens of millions worldwide if simply allowed to run its course: With lockdowns of months, if not years, life largely stops, short-term and long-term consequences are entirely unknown, and billions, not just millions, of lives may be eventually at stake. There are big problems with some of the claims made by Santelli and Ioannidis. Santelli is almost certainly wrong that “the mortality rate of this probably isn’t going to be any different” if a large share of the population contracts Covid-19 at the same time. It would likely be much higher because so many people with serious cases wouldn’t be able to get treatment, and the resulting death toll would probably drive a similar or even greater amount of economy-damaging self-quarantining and social distancing to what we’re seeing now, albeit it with a clearer and nearer end date.
The issue Texx is the 20% hospitalization rate. The American people cannot go back to work like you are proposing even with an elevated amount of risk until our hospital system is in a groove to be able to handle even current rate of incoming sick people. My guess is if we had overnight wards of hospitals erected with 1,000's of ventilators & a proper treatment for the symptoms, we could be going back to a "new normal" with a re-opening of our economy with an elevated risk. Look we live with risks every day for the exchange of our daily life value such as driving in cars (38K a year die in car accidents) and guns (15,000+ died in 2019 in the US). The issue is preparedness. Right now we have response time for car accidents where if you had a car accident, we are equip to handle the response. We have cops that can show up in 5 minutes if someone pulls out a gun & is a threat. We have learned to live with that threat, and have a system in place to deal with it. The issue is preparedness of our health care system. Most people are likely going to side with you though that I'll have to risk going to work tomorrow with the risk of Covid 19 if it's the matter of putting food on the table at my home or not, and our lawmakers will 100% allow risks of Covid 19 at the tradeoff of total economic collapse. But what folks like yourself don't really realize is that we aren't right now prepared to handle the acceptance & outcomes of taking on that risk. We need a war-time like effort to scale up our healthcare system & we need at least some sort of treatment plan to manage treatment of Covid in NORMAL cases so we can do what you are proposing. Right now your're outlook on the situation is naive about our ability to absorb the risk-reward of not doing what we are doing now to HOPEFULLY scale up our healthcare preparedness.
Then build hospitals like China did. Train up nurses and others to provide care. >80% of cases are mild and people recover at home.
We've been getting food and other things delivered, from HEB, Whole Foods, and self-isolating. My concern is just how safe what we're getting really is. You have people going into grocery stores to buy, you have people with the carts going around in the same store filling your order, and then you have someone else delivering it. We attempt to "disinfect" things, not that products for that purpose are easy to get, but there's a limit to how well you can do that. In other words, we may think we're doing everything right, as might others, and still get exposed.
