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So the Astros 2017 title is tainted

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rockets13champs, Nov 12, 2019.

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  1. JayGoogle

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    I loved hearing Mark Texeira on ESPN say that for the Astros to regain respect they need to apologize to the Dodgers AND Yankees. Mentioned no one else.

    Because that's all this is about. There just wouldn't be this outcry if the Dodgers did this to the Diamondbacks or something. Sure, it'd be a story, but on this level where everyone is commenting and trying to destroy the franchise completely? Nah. Not on this level.
     
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    Not to mention the cycle never ends.

    *"The only way for the Astros to regain respect is to apologize*
    *they do*
    *"OOH look, the Astros wouldn't have apologized if they didn't think it was a big deal... MLB STRIP THE TITLE"*
    *MLB doesn't*
    *"The only way for the Astros to regain respect is to demand that the MLB strips the title"*
    *Astros don't*
    "The only way for the Astros to regain respect is to apologize for not demanding that the MLB strips the title"*
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    It is amazing how none of this stuff gets talked about or how the other reports of other teams also possibly doing the same or similar things is not talked about.

    Manfred is trying his best to sweep this under the rug because my guess is, plenty of teams do it. All these players on their high horse are no different than Hinch bold face lying to the press about how the Astros are completely clean.

    I mean other players make this clear with how they treat their own ex-Astro players vs the ones still on the team. If they are so angry at our guys why has that anger not transferred to Kemp and Cole? I don't see Yankee fans going after Cole for helping cover it up after all like they are going after Verlander and calling him a hypocrite. Why is Kemp automatically exempt from the past "3 years" of cheating? Because he's no longer on the team?

    We know good and damn well if Altuve signed for the Yankees tomorrow they would excuse him and celebrate him and honor him. Tired of this better than thou attitude the players and fans are having.

    Manfred's trying to save these dumbass players and just sweep it under the rug and move on but they don't know any better, all trying to get their pats on the back for being 'clean' and honorable.
     
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    For me stripping the title is silly.

    The Astros still won the title, everyone would still know they won that title just like everyone knows Bonds records. People can think of the title as tainted and *'d still, Manfred is right that the same should be enough.

    The punishment was always going to be draft picks OR/and suspensions. It was a bit of both.

    People comparing it to UEFA...man, there's like hundreds of teams in UEFA and Man City can just transfer players that want to play in the CL and be back 2 years later. UEFA loses nothing, some other powerhouse team will benefit from their absence, so what, Soccer has a near infinite pool of potential star players and teams because of how popular and widely played it is.

    If they end up suspending players AND taking draft picks they are basically taking money out of their own pockets. Suspend Correa, Altuve, etc etc for the season. Why would Astro fans come to these games then? Let's be real, MLB was never doing that. If it were like the NCAA or UEFA with hundreds of teams than maybe, sure, whatever. But with the Astros being one of their top franchises the last thing they were going to do was ANYTHING that affected pocketbooks.

    One thing you don't see is many owners saying anything about it. Wonder why. They know the deal. They profit off the Astros as well.
     
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    well thank you bartstool

     
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    New York and LA, we apologize for attempting to steal your signs and for sometimes succeeding. This helped us beat you since we were probably able to steal signs for a few at bats during the playoffs. As your competitive colleague, we encourage you to craft more complex sign sequences going forward, as teams are known to steal those things. Above all, we apologize for winning the 2017 Word Series Championship instead of you. Please forgive us and try to beat us in 2020.
     
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    F You and the horse you road in on.

    They were ridiculously stacked in 2017bas well.
     
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    Apologize to those hypocrites for something they did as well? **** that.
     
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    Astro pitching has been dominant the last few seasons. That has nothing to do with sign stealing. If opponents start throwing at our hitters, it is going to get ugly really fast. A lot of self righteous baloney going on right now. And so far as LBJ, "shut up and move to China."
     
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    Did I miss something? As far as I knew this investigation is concluded and the punishment was handed down over a month ago. As far as the Astros are concerned, this matter is over. Why are the reporters and other players, and morons like LeBron James treating this like it's still an open, ongoing matter like there is more that is going to be done?? It's like they are trying to make fetch happen and it's not going to happen.
     
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    I just listened to the interview. I just heard a guy from Philly state why he believes, and its obvious at this point, that the Astros have been made the scapegoat in this. MLB has no backbone. Just bury us and act like we're the only one using what the league gave EVRY f*cking team in the dugout.

    Any conincedence that the same 8 teams that the Astros urged the league to investigate are the same 8 teams this guy has heard over and over again? What a farce
     
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    How I wish we could wake up tomorrow and read the headlines that the Astros were scapegoats all along and everyone in the media and players started apologizing to US for being hypocrites, biased and/or uninformed. And instead of trying to come for our blood and our only trophy, how about moving the game FORWARD (novel concept?) and implementing a radio system like the NFL uses.
     
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    Sorry for out cheating the cheatin’ dodgers and cheatin’ Yankees.
     
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    Perhaps another reason the TITLE isn't stripped is because Manford already knows other teams were cheating.
     
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    This is from January?! Isn’t this just as crazy as anything the Astros did? I get that there is media bias but your ****ing story is right there in your fat little faces and all you want to do is repeat the same Astros story over and over again. It’s just weird.
     
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    He absolutely knows, he just doesn’t care. Neither does anyone else apparently.
     
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