Sources: Westbrook Recently called out Harden for having the "worst attitude" on the team

It should at least be noted that we're way past talking about stats as x/y/z on fg%. CP3 was and is the more efficient scorer, even though he had a slightly lower FG%, because of course of the 3 pointers and FT% and how those weight into efficiency. That's part of the reason CP3 had a 118 ORtg with the team last year, compared to Russ' 106 this year. Russ also turns the ball over more... in fact at a 45% higher rate per 100 possessions. I also think CP3 is the better defender.

That said, Russ is much better with regard to rebounding, pace, energy, etc. Notwithstanding his resting on b2bs this year and CP3s amazing health rejuvenation, Russ is the better bet health wise and age wise going forward. Russ is equally good at finding open players imo... in a completely different way than CP3, but surprisingly good way. I think the rest of the team hasn't been "as good" as I would have hoped hitting shots off his passes unfortunately. In that sense, especially in his first year, CP3 was playing with a Rockets team with better supporting cast.

As much as I might want to believe we'd be seeing this year's CP3 here if he had stayed, I don't think we would have. And more than that, the main thing about him this year has been that he's been clutch and healthy. Otherwise better than last year, but not light year's better, and not better than his first year with the Rockets, imo.

If Russ can by virtue of his relationship with Harden, help with the attitude more than CP3, that's probably worth the price of admission, because otherwise I think its kind of an even trade and the bigger issue will remain what it's always been - forwards and defense.

As an aside, the 4-some of Russ, Harden, Clint and Tucker have played 33 of the 46 games so far. It will be nice to stay healthy for a stretch if possible.

 

appreciate your insightful analysis of their ids.

 

Exactly... lets just get all the chemistry stuff sorted out... we can beat any team any day... yes even the lakers when we're clicking on all cylnders.

 

Obviously, you're upset. Why, I'm not sure, because we're just DISCUSSING Basketball Player's leadership qualities or lack there of. The strange thing about leadership is, no one way is right or wrong! Some lead with an "Iron fist", some lead with a "Show You" quality (I'll show you how it's done).

Kobe, Jordan, Bird and Magic were all Iron fist types and LeBron and Duncan are/were Show You types. The reason while I say Harden needs help, because he doesn't know how to be a leader. He is unselfish, however he also voice his opinions on the court BUT the one thing ALL of the after mentioned leaders I just stated above did was THEY LEAD!

I've personally seen Harden pinpoint to an area on the court where a player should have been on Defense or something they should have done, when he doesn't play defense all the time. And it's nothing worse than a player calling you out in public. I think he should wait until we get to the bench or talk to them at halftime. I don't know what all Harden does or not do, but for Russ to pull him aside and tell him, it's HIM and not anyone else... that's major!

And don't you think it's funny how Russ has taking over more recently and Harden has been fading of late and now this comes out!

 

lol you missed the point of his post 100%

 

I will leave the lying to you.

 

I was talking about LEADERSHIP in both post, so who missed the point?

 

smh

 

Kobe won 5 rings being a dick, clearly it worked and is part of the reason he's among the greatest. Jordan was a ******* too. Every leader isn't holding hands singing Kumbaya in a love circle

 

2002 WCF game 6, 2000 WCF game 7 (two of the most blatantly rigged games in american pro sports history)

contrast with 2018 WCF games 6 & 7?

kobe was the beneficiary of economy of scale (southern california) making great financial sense for the league office. harden, not so much.

 

Could someone please tell me how I can search a thread for the amount of posts by specific users.

IE: search this thread to see if cyberx has followed up from his opening comment.

 

He answered someone’s question if we’re still interested in Iggy, “Does a bear s*** in the woods?”

I do a Search Forums and look for posts by username. Sometimes posters will pop up in other threads, especially Codman.

 

I'll give it till the end of the season. It's always the same with ol' Hardhead. He just cant stand not taking the lead. Even when its obvious that he can't. No star is safe with Harden.

 

Kobe is a top 20 player but pretty clearly he was the 2nd fiddle on the first 3 championships plus the beneficiary in 2002 of some of the most blatant league mandated officiating in NBA history.

And then obviously 2nd fiddle to Adam Morrison on the last 2 rings. (kidding)

Kobe is a legendary player and probably a pretty effective leader but his style isnt a prerequisite to success. I don’t think that if you exchange him for Harden on the exact same teams, we have any more success.

 

so the leadership for you is to have the the game rigged for you to win?
and lacking leadership is when the refs dont give you fouls you have legit earned?

 

jimmy be like more dribble dribble dribble

 

I really like having a dick next to Harden though. Not my dick, but a dickish player on the Rockets. His dick.

 

The best employee is usually not the best manager. The effects of a leader depends on the ones lead. Not one person responds the same way to the same thing. Yes, simple commands can be followed by most, but to be inspired extrinsically varies from person to person. Some my like the leader while other are trying to sabotage their efforts.

PS a-hole or friend just win.

 

I really hope so, man. I'm starting to wonder if Harden cares more about his stats than winning, his actions haven't looked like someone who cares about winning above all.