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Ready The Clown Car: The First Batch of Democrats Are Ready To Announce Their 2020 Bids

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  1. ryan_98

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    Are there murmurs of John Kerry getting in?
     
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    There are "murmurs," but I am not sure if Kerry is involved in the murmuring or not. If not - Hillary clearly is - then it is not going to happen.

    That Kerry is even being discussed demonstrates just how hard the bottom of the barrel of potential Democrat presidential candidates is being scrapped right now, as many Democrats are having second thoughts and misgivings about the adequacy of the current field.
     
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    It tells me is that voters are 90% governed by name recognition.
     
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    So I am hearing a lot of rumblings and grumblings because Obama is making money from speaking.

    And there seems to be problem with rich people running for office.

    So what is the cutoff line and why are Sanders and Warren exempt from critic.

    https://www.newsweek.com/2020-hopeful-bernie-sanders-net-worth-1458834

    https://www.newsweek.com/2020-hopeful-bernie-sanders-net-worth-1458834

    So it seems that Warrens campaign was leading the McKinsey smear and that might just come back to bite her.

    I am really disappointed with Warren there are a lot of things coming out that I did not know. She is starting to look sanctimonious.

    I don't begrudge either of them it's just funny nobody talks about this.
     
  6. Andre0087

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    Don't do it, just don't...
     
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  7. MojoMan

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    Joe Biden is sending out some pretty strong signals that if he wins in November 2020, he will only serve one term. This does not look like a good move for him and makes him look weak. It makes me wonder how much he even wants the one term.

    Biden signals to aides that he would serve only a single term

    Former Vice President Joe Biden’s top advisers and prominent Democrats outside the Biden campaign have recently revived a long-running debate whether Biden should publicly pledge to serve only one term, with Biden himself signaling to aides that he would serve only a single term.

    While the option of making a public pledge remains available, Biden has for now settled on an alternative strategy: quietly indicating that he will almost certainly not run for a second term while declining to make a promise that he and his advisers fear could turn him into a lame duck and sap him of his political capital.

    According to four people who regularly talk to Biden, all of whom asked for anonymity to discuss internal campaign matters, it is virtually inconceivable that he will run for reelection in 2024, when he would be the first octogenarian president.​
     
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    Its crazy that the left had four years to literally groom their perfect candidate yet all they cared about was impeaching Trump. This has to be one of the worst pool of candidates that the Democratic party has ever assembled. I've been waiting to financially support and get behind a candidate but as time goes by its just looking worst and worst. They have no candidate that can garner the black vote other then BIden and Biden look weak. Without the black vote the Dems have literally ZERO chance.
     
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    While I was not really expecting the Democrats to produce any candidates that I was likely to be wowed by, this field has surprised me by how incredibly weak they are.
     
  10. MojoMan

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    Bernie Sanders still has the wind at his back from the so-called "Progressive" wing of the party even though he is running only second in the national polls behind Joe Biden.

    Of course Sanders faces a headwind from the Democrat establishment and much of the media, who do not believe he can win in November and are concerned about the damage that his open identification with "Socialism" will do to the Democrat party brand, should he win the nomination, much less the presidency.

    So today the leaders of 50 "Progressive" groups have come together to endorse Bernie Sanders.

    Coalition of more than 50 progressive groups to endorse Sanders

    The Center for Popular Democracy Action, a coalition of more than 50 progressive groups, on Tuesday announced it was endorsing Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in the Democratic presidential primary race. Sanders received 75 percent of the votes cast by groups in the coalition’s network to pick a candidate to back in the organization's first-ever presidential endorsement, the group said.

    “Bernie Sanders is the powerful movement candidate we need to defeat Donald Trump. From ending mass incarceration and deportations to the $15 minimum wage and Medicare for All, Sanders is working hand-in-hand with our communities to champion the policies that we need to thrive,” Jennifer Epps-Addison, co-executive director and network president of the coalition, said in the announcement.​

    Not Elizabeth Warren (who has now slipped back to fourth place in the RCP poll average for Iowa and New Hampshire. Meanwhile, in the same RCP Poll average, Bernie Sanders has taken the lead in New Hampshire and is running second in Iowa. Sanders is looking pretty strong, for those who have not been paying attention.
     
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    Now this is certainly surprising.
     
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    Non sedentary Joe Biden challenges you to feats of strength and a push-up contest.

    #No Malarkey
     
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    Honestly, I think this is the better strategy. If the party had somehow identified their perfect candidate 3 years ago, that'd be 3 years of character assassination to withstand before the general election. Look at the tear-down Democrats have been doing to Trump since he won. Look at the treatment of the presumed Dem frontrunner Biden, trying to drum up phony corruption investigations. The good thing about having 20 candidates is that your opponent won't know where to invest their resources for defaming you until there's only a half-year left.
     
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    Seems like you haven't been on Twitter lately. #BlacksForYang is currently trending number 5 in the US...
     
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...d-in-iowa-poll-as-sanders-surges-warren-drops

    Former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) are leading the 2020 Democratic primary field in the crucial caucus state of Iowa as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) sinks, according to a Emerson College poll released Tuesday.

    Biden and Sanders are neck-and-neck at the top of the survey, garnering the support of 23 percent and 22 percent of Democratic caucusgoers, respectively. South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D) comes in third, at 18 percent, and Warren sits at fourth, with 12 percent.

    Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) comes in fifth place in the poll, at 10 percent, while no other candidate breaks double digits.

    Biden has been resilient, looks like he is the fail safe candidate.
     
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    I hear that, but then... parties can't "groom" who they think voters will like. Just like the GOP did with Trump?
    (rest of snarky post redacted.)
     
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    It appears that the Democrats are getting ready to go into a debating frenzy once we get into the new year. The DNC announced today four more debates, on January 14, and then February 7, 19 and 25.

    Is anyone interested in watching any more of these debates? Is anyone interested in watching four more debates over a six week period? Hmmm.

    Democrats announce packed debate schedule in early voting states

    The Democratic National Committee announced on Thursday that it plans to sponsor four more presidential nomination debates in January and February in the first four states to vote in the primary and caucus calendar.

    The first of the early voting state debates will take place on Jan. 14 at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. CNN and the Des Moines Register will serve as media partners. Iowa’s Feb. 3 caucuses kick off the nominating calendar. The next debate will be held Feb. 7 at Saint Anselm College in Manchester, N.H., with ABC News, local TV station WMUR, and Apple News as media partners. New Hampshire’s first-in-the-nation presidential primary will be held on Feb. 11.

    Twelve days later, the DNC will hold a debate in Las Vegas, Nevada, in partnership with NBC News, MSNBC, and the Nevada Independent. The Feb. 19 debate will be held three days before the state’s presidential caucuses. The final early voting state debate will be held on Feb. 25, in Charleston, S.C., four days before the state’s primary. CBS News and the Congressional Black Caucus Institute are partnering with the DNC for the debate.​

    Of course it may be that some of the candidates who are Senators will not participate in some of these debates, depending on if and when an impeachment trial is conducted in the Senate.
     
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    What do the numbers look like if they add RFK, JFK, or FDR?
     
  19. MojoMan

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    Who cares? Those people are all long dead.
     
  20. Andre0087

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    Why'd you delete the rest of your post? I thought it was pretty hilarious...
     

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