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Astros Staffer's Outburst at Female Reporters Illustrates MLB's Forgive-and-Forget Attitude Toward D

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  1. intergalactic

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    What would be more effective is to have a private sitdown b/w Taubman and Footer. Have him apologize to her directly. Then agree on a joint public outcome, including a PR statement. It would be better if the Astros increase their donations to domestic violence causes rather than only whip Taubman.

    If you only have a public pillory but no diplomacy, it just makes everyone angrier and can make productive outcomes even more difficult.
     
  2. jiggyfly

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    Do you really think this guy is saying DV is ok by those words.
     
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  3. Major

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    Actually, they did by calling her story misleading.

    I see you are just finding every excuse to defend the Astros, regardless of facts.
     
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  4. Major

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    Hinch seems like the only person associated with the Astros that has any common sense or PR sense here. Along with the anonymous staffer who apologized in the moment.
     
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  5. Nook

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    This and it is why he is considered an exceptional manager and person within baseball.

    He does the same with his players as well.

    He has become exceptional at strategic decisions because he knows his roster so well........ but at the end of the day, he is just a really good person and leader. He didn't even really have to answer the question but he did and he did it with class and in such a way that he seems sincere.
     
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    I feel like on a lot of the reporting the history between Taubman and the reporter is being overlooked.

    Dude was clearly being childish but I’m still not following why this is such a big story that is driving pretty much every website to come out with these long pieces condemning the entire organization like they are all a bunch of monsters.
     
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  7. Nook

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    At this point it is a big story because of how the Astros handled it.
     
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  8. Houstunna

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    Her story is misleading if she believes Taubman is supporting DV.
    Men apologize plenty to women over the smallest things.

    I still consider Taubman insensitive, but that's the farthest this story should go.
     
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  9. DVauthrin

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    The backstory is Footer posted the domestic violence hotline number on Twitter every time Osuna pitched last season for the Astros, and, as assistant GM, it’s likely that one of Taubman’s responsibilities is to monitor and listen to what is being said about the team on social media.
     
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    Just now watched the segment on OTL....

    Good lord this is crazy. The stretches people are making about this incident are insane.

    One reporter on there Turning the childish actions of 1 guy into The Astros care more about having a good player than the safety and well being of victims....
     
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  11. DVauthrin

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    If you choose to tweet the domestic violence hotline number every time a team’s player pitches, you will receive blowback, whether you want it or not. It also becomes juvenile and petty after awhile. Not to mention, she covered the Astros for years for MLB. Employees don’t get to slam a former employer that is part of the organization you now work for on social media consistently and keep their jobs.

    That said, assistant general managers of MLB teams don’t get to berate the media, either. They have to handle themselves in a professional manner at all times, no matter their personal feelings about a situation.

    Finally, the Astros could have diffused this situation if they had sent out a press release saying they take the allegations seriously and would be launching an internal investigation into the matter. They instead called the story a complete lie. That was incredibly stupid and arrogant on their part.
     
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  12. Major

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    Her story was about baseball taking a dismissive attitude towards DV, not supporting it.
     
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    Just watched a piece on Outside the Lines about this. SI sports columnist Nancy Armour- “The Astros place is this guy can throw heat in the 9th, that ‘s all that matters we don’t care. That’s what Taubman was essentially telling the female reporters as he screamed at them on Saturday. Your safety and lives don’t matter to us as much as this guys talent on the mound”

    A couple things. The Astros absolutely botched it with their initial response. They blew it. That needs to be addressed as quickly as possible. They need to acknowledge that.

    I didn’t like Taubman’s “apology “ it was weak. If he did what was said in the was it was described, he should be punished.

    Lastly the comments above by Armour are ridiculous. There were many of us that didn’t like the Osuna trade, but the Astros did bring awareness and have done some positive things. Why does Osuna need to pay for this again? Her saying the Astros don’t care or care about the safety of women in their locker room or otherwise is ludicrous to me.

    Hinch gets it. Loved what he said. The Team needs to come out and fix this now.
     
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  14. Nook

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    Ehh it is a tough situation all the way around.

    She is being asked to be around a man that beat the wife of his child and that is rough. It is why I can see why Verlander was so upset at the time. Would you want your company to hire someone like that?

    Social media has made it all very difficult because where does the job begin and end?
     
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    Who is this guy? Some bum assistant to the assistant? Why let him become a distraction? Osuna just trying to move on and play ball and he's getting dragged again smh fire the douche already
     
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    No they never called her a liar, you are just turning things up to 11 because you never liked the acquisition of Osuna.

    That's fine but at least discuss the facts.

    I have made no excuse to defend the Astros, I asked legitimate questions, there is no definitive answer on this except for the fact that an astros employee did something not very wise considering where we are on the issue.

    Why are you acting like you know exactly what happened here and that all sides have ways that they want this story to be told.
     
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    Exactly.
     
  19. DVauthrin

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    I understand it’s a tough situation, and I agree with Verlander’s perspective about whether you would want your company to bring someone like Osuna on board. However, if you want to remain gainfully employed, you don’t get to mock a department (Astros) within the organization (MLB) you work for regularly on social media. 99% of employee handbooks today cover what you can and cannot say about your employer on social media, and any misstep is a fireable offense.

    That said, Taubman should not have reacted like this, and if it costs him his job, that’s fine and deserved. He has an image to portray for the organization, and he failed mightily here. But Footer isn’t blameless in this mess, and the fact she removed all of her tweets referencing the domestic violence hotline when Osuna pitched last season is not a good look for her, either.
     
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  20. jiggyfly

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    I agree with everything here except for the fact they did not say it was a complete lie.

    They said the story was misleading and it was.
     
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