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Ukraine scandal Megathread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Sep 18, 2019.

  1. Ubiquitin

    Ubiquitin Contributing Member
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    Pence vs. Warren 2020. Did not see that coming in 2016.
     
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    Blinders? You are one to talk. You constantly defend trump in this forum, repeating every absurd conspiracy theory that comes down the pike that excuses his behavior. You continue ignoring trump's blatant attack on our democracy in 2016, when he asked for and got help from Russia, something every national security agency in the country has said happened. Instead, you accept and repeat every effort by trump and his people to pretend that it never happened. That it is some kind of "hoax." Not a good look for you at all, in my humble opinion.

    Now we have trump being caught trying to blackmail Ukraine into digging up "dirt" on the Biden's by manufacturing it, something they would have to do since our allies in Europe, Ukraine itself, and the IMF, among others, could find nothing that the Biden's did wrong. The blackmail attempt by trump is obvious, shown by trump putting a hold on nearly $400,000,000 in military aid to Ukraine, part of a package of aid agreed upon and promised by the United States government and funded by Congress. A hold on that aid that surprised everyone, including our military, our intelligence agencies, both Houses of Congress, our allies and, of course, Ukraine.

    So what do you do? Essentially say that our allies, Ukraine itself, the IMF, and any other person or entity is corrupt and spewing lies about Mr trump. You repeat every excuse coming from the fellow and his closest supporters in an effort to defend him, instead of being outraged at what he has done and is doing. If you cared half as much about stopping what trump and his cohorts are doing to subvert our democracy as you do about defending trump's illegal efforts to remain in power, it would be a nice change. I'm not holding my breath that you will. It is very disappointing.
     
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    Yeah his constant mentioning of 9/11 is what caused me to sour on the guy.

    Frankly he kept using it as a cop out to avoid answering questions and I thought that was despicable

    Anyone twisting 9/11 for their own personal gain is a grade A scumbag IMO . So , I hate his guts now
     
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    If Petaine could ruin his image anyone can
     
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    The wheels really started coming off the Rudy train when he ran for president with that extremely bizarre strategy -- people got a close look at just how unprepared and clueless he had become. The laser focus on him showed his true abrasive character and not the thoughtful mayor during 9/11 that all the positive sound bites had created. Now he's just an old out of touch conspiracy theorist grasping for his last bit of power.
     
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    Word on the street is that it is advanced stage syphilis.

    Signs and symptoms of late stage tertiary syphilis include:
    • difficulty coordinating muscle movements.
    • paralysis.
    • numbness.
    • gradual blindness.
    • dementia.
    Thoughts & prayers
     
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    China is a festering **** hole of totalitarianism and destruction of individual freedoms and self expression. They pick through the long dumped trash of the USA and Western Europe to find anything to improve their complete lack of self confidence, to prove so badly to the rest of the world their relevance and superiority like a child showing his mother he **** in the toilet like a big boy.
     
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    Word on the street is he has applied for asylum in Italy.
     
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    I don't think you know what blackmail is nor are you presenting any evidence apart from parroting the same tired crap over and over. Ignore spin and look at facts. Black mail is not the issue btw. The issue was a possible quid pro quo and the evidence for it is garbage.
     
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  12. dachuda86

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    He didn't say it on the transcript and the report that came out has errors. This is why I am more than Ok with an investigation. The evidence is weak. Not buying it yet. That is my position. I am very ok with truth coming to light on a us official. I just posted about Biden to prove how the bar for evidence shifts for the posters here because they are largely partisans.

    how would you feel about this starting a new precedent where parties launch impeachment investigations before elections? Basically manipulating the election? The same thing they accuse trump of?


    Also why wouldn't the president want to know more and investigate possible white house dealing and corruption? Do you think you can prove he asked about biden for the election? Are you a mind reader? Do you think running for office makes your past immune from legal inquiry and your son? Where is that a law? There is still much unanswered and even Nancy Pelosi said hey dems wait up for the facts.
     
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    I will take either one with a honey badger as VP over Trump. Seriously

    Trump is so awful in my eyes I would take almost anyone over him except maybe Sara Palin. Otherwise gtfo the Whitehouse.
     
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    Trump admitted to reporters. You are ignoring that. Or you don't understand it.
     
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  15. dachuda86

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    link it.

    I love how people are using the word admits... like it is a crime to look into corruption. He only said he discussed biden. That really isn't illegal in and of itself.
     
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    My gosh republicans are flailing with "whataboutisms" to protect trump...



     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    The corruption being investigated was done two years before Biden's son was there. The investigation happened and Biden and his son were both cleared.

    However, the President admits bringing up Biden again with the President while tying it to funding.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...s-he-can-t-be-100-percent-sure-trump-n1057561

    What Trump admitted to doing was a crime. That is why he changed his tune after this came out. Whether or not you can face that cold hard truth, is up to you.
     
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  18. dachuda86

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    You are in denial.

    "I put no pressure on [Ukraine] whatsoever. I could have. I think it would probably, possibly have been ok if I did. But I didn't. I didn't put any pressure on them whatsoever," Trump said Monday.

    Is that your link of him admitting to it? lol
     
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  19. fchowd0311

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    You are a very dumb person or you are playing a shitck.
     
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  20. dachuda86

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    You are unemployed or a terrible worker for how often you post. And a jerk.
     
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