You aren't addressing the evidence. I'm not talking about whether Congress will impeach or not. The Mueller report found that the Trump campaign sought help from a hostile foreign intelligence service, tried to get dirt on American political opponents from people connected with the Russian government. The Russians were actively working to have Trump elected. Whether that raises to the point of a crime or not doesn't really matter. The Mueller report showed that the Trump campaign willingly sought help from hostile a hostile foreign government and a hostile foreign intelligence service. To me and folks that have read the report and actually care, that does 'get Trump'. You have no problem with those actions. That matters. It matters that Trump did that and has said he would do it again.
This goes to the recent discussion I was having in the Trudeau thread. Trump isn't a complicated guy, he's not playing 4-D chess, he's a simple man that does what he says, or tries to do what he says. He said he'd use foreign help on his opponents, he thinks there's nothing wrong with it. So here he is again, doing it, again. He believes it isn't wrong to do so (it is) and so he's going to continue doing it.
As for this whatabout Biden... Fine, investigate him. I think those of us that don't have Trump Delusion Syndrom are fine with actually draining the swamp of corrupt politicians no matter what side of the aisle they fall on.
It's just crazy that people will ignore it, purposefully pretend or convince themselves that these things don't mean what they mean, or are okay, or didn't even happen. I don't think its good to do that, but it's even worse when the person you are willing to do that for, is somebody as despicable as Donald Trump.
[Educational Post] False. The Trump campaign did not seek help from a hostile foreign intel service. Total lie. The DNC and Obama FBI/State Department/CIA did in fact hire a foreign spy to produce a phony dossier which was then laundered back to the US through foreign intel agencies and used to launch an FBI investigation of a political opponent. So there's that. Once again, the Dems are actually guilty of the things they falsely accuse others of doing. GOOD DAY
That is not a lie and that very fact was testified to by Robert Mueller when he appeared before congress. Go back and watch his testimony.
This. As long as the President is winning elections he is untouchable. People either show up at the ballot box or shut up.
More concerned with the ties Biden has with China. Start a separate thread on Biden and Ukraine or China.
Trump is burning down the institutions that are trying to look out for the country something he should be doing instead looking out for himself. Trump is laying the groundwork for blaming others and not himself if he loses the election. He willing set everything on fire if he loses this election. People have to see this coming and plan for it if possible. If you think the anti government terrorists in the 90s were bad I can see this getting worse especially if some of his base revolts if he loses a close election.
This is one of the problems. Whether by plan or luck Trump is being protected by those who have fidelity for the rules. As Mueller said himself Trump could be indicted if he wasn’t President but his hands are tied by the rules. Same with the inspector general. Again the Constitutional solution and within the rules is impeachment
Nothing exists outside of Trump. V-ger? What the **** is V-ger? Oh, you'll find out.... ETA: Sorry to say this, but one of you guys is gonna have to **** the space chick, if I remember my Star Trek correctly
trump defenders will spin out the least believable defenses... and note, the IC IG was a trump appointee
Note neither trump nor his secretary of state are no longer saying trump didn't talk to Ukraine about trump's political opponent. Amazing that pompeii is actually supporting that action...
