EPA set to revoke California's authority to set vehicle standards

In normal times the federal standards serve as the floor for what is allowed, but a state can be more restrictive. The reasoning is that a state has the right to be more proactive, but sometimes federal floors are needed when states lag behind what the public finds acceptable. Generally not a problem until recently since most people are hesitant to say they WANT more pollution and poison air/water, even if state governments might drag their feet in some places.

 

His posts have become far more violent of late.

 

The Government has a ton of say-so how Boeing makes their planes....

 

That's the concern with the right wings. Before they were just kinda Republican and would debate on normal stuff like immigration reform or the economy. Since Trump took office they've just turned it up to 11. Even Fox News isn't racist enough for them now.

 

I found his sniper comment about protestors disturbing. Right wing or not

 

Honestly, car emissions should be regulated federally and not by California. California is such an important market that car manufacturers who want to sell the same model across the country will have to build to their standard, and essentially grant de facto authority in all other states to the regulators in California. And because pollution is a national -- nay, global -- problem, it should be regulated at an equally broad level, or as near as we can get. The problem is not that we're oh so concerned about California's right to regulate but that we know Trump would make cars run on coal if he could. But I think the authority question is honestly bigger than the emissions question. And it makes sense for the EPA to have the jurisdiction.

It won't be the end of the world. For one, manufacturers still have reasons to want to build clean cars. Two, the legal fight over jurisdiction will last longer than the Trump Administration. Three, the Warren Administration will just amp up the requirements anyway. Four, cars are going electric -- estimates are that by 2040, half of all new cars in the world will be electric. Five, there are other things that California can do to counter the loss of their power to regulate internal combustion engines, like taxes to slow their sale or subsidies to increase EV sales.

 

I missed that one. They've had several. Not just him. The way they fetishize shooting people (minorities or liberals) is really disturbing and needs to be stopped.

This isn't some outlandish concern out of thin air. They're getting more and more aggressive and full of hatred. They're also likely armed. A bad combination. They're like kerosene waiting for a live match.

 

EPA set to revoke California's authority to set vehicle standards
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Gov Newsom (the Ex of Fredo Trump's current girl friend) and his AG (Kamala Harris' successor) are chomping at the bit for this fight.

Gavin Newsom released a statement that called the move a “political vendetta.”

“It’s a move that could have devastating consequences for our kids’ health and the air we breathe,
if California were to roll over. But we will not,” Gov. Newsom wrote.

Xavier Becerra, California’s attorney general, echoed Gov. Newsom’s comments.

“You have no basis and no authority to pull this waiver,” Becerra said in a statement.
“We’re ready to fight for a future that you seem unable to comprehend;
we’ll see you in court if you stand in our way.”

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/09/17/epa-ending-fuel-regulation-california-gavin-newsom/​

 

lol for wanting to give them their freedom? Doesn't need violence... just give them a choice.

 

California's standards got the auto industry off their ass. They have had a positive impact on the industry producing vehicles with cleaner emissions country wide, not just for California, in my opinion. I agree with @JuanValdez that there is a very strong trend towards electric personal transportation. In fact, his prediction that half of new cars will be electric by 2040 is too conservative, in my opinion. I think the percentage for electrics will be higher than that, and I also think that self-driving cars will also become more important by then than some may believe today, but that's another subject.

Mr trump's administration continues to do tremendous damage to the country. Assaulting state's rights, destroying decades of effort to preserve our environment, along with decades of effort protecting what's left of the natural world in this country, attacking the work of so many years to clean up the air that we breathe, so important not only for us, but for our children and our grandchildren. A host of things too long to list here. All on the altar of serving big corporations and the rich, second and third behind what trump values above all things. Himself.

 

EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler:

"We embrace federalism and the role of the states, but federalism does not mean that one state can dictate standards for the nation," EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler said during a speech ahead of the move Tuesday.

"To borrow from Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry, CAFE does not stand for California Assumes Federal Empowerment. So we will be moving forward with one national standard very soon. We will be taking joint action with the Department of Transportation to bring clarity to the proper – and improper – scope and use of the Clean Air Act preemption waiver, he continued. "Our actions will not impact California’s health-based standards and programs. California will be able to keep in place and enforce programs to address smog and other forms of air pollution caused by motor vehicles. This will allow the State to redouble its efforts to address its air quality problems and finally achieve compliance with EPA’s National Ambient Air Quality Standards."

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So California will still be allowed to regulate the smog and Clean Air aspects of these regulations. But they will not be allowed to regulate other vehicle related standards. Which should put to bed any concerns anyone has about satisfying the language included in the statute.

 

You so-called “Republicans” do realize this is authoritarianism and everything you fear about Socialism right?

States rights my ass. You guys on the right believe in nothing but grievance.

 

Oh, don't worry about it, we are the only animal in the world that doesn't affect their environment. I'm sure it'll all be fine.

 

Maybe you can explain this angle in more detail because I'm not sure I understand how my concerns are put to bed. EPA wants to stop California from setting a miles-per-gallon performance standard, but they can still enforce an emissions standard for the cars? So, if they made a new rule that said a car must produce less than X tons of carbon per mile driven, that'd be okay?

 

It will be interesting to see more detail and analysis about this new standard and the EPA's approach to dividing out what remains in California's perview and what isn't.

 

CVT,GDI,EGR,DPF maybe created more disposable products to what the EPA had anticipated

 

Had to look up some of your acronyms. But interested to know what you mean (and learning the acronyms didn't get me there).

 

Can you imagine the outcry there'd be if this was Wyoming instead of California?!?!?!

Oh right, there'd be none.

 

Like your brain chose freedom from you?