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Should Kavanaugh be Impeached from the DC Circuit?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Sep 7, 2018.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Republicans are allowed to lie under oath, not Democrats.
     
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    That would be my guess.
     
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    Democrats aren't really even allowed to tell the truth. They can only say exactly what Republicans want to hear.
     
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    Only two of those legal scholars actually discuss specific with one of them suggesting it is pretty close (so worth a shot in calling for perjury proceedings?).

    Perjury traps are fun and all but to me the most important/interesting part of this article was in this paragraph:

    "Do I think he’s been less than forthcoming? Absolutely. Do I think he’s been more troublingly less than forthcoming than previous nominees? I do. Do I think we have less access to documents than we have with previous nominees? Yes."

    We are talking about the highest court in the land. Are we not capable of a transparent proceedings that are devoid of underhanded gamingship and where the candidate is worthy of the job and of our trust in his ability to do the right/moral thing? Do we have to go out and protest to drain the swamp. I thought Trump was there to do that.
     
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    Has he furnished his tax returns yet?

    I’m betting like any convoluted mystery thriller, that’s the smoking gun to all of this.
     
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    Why this thread is a waste of time.....

    The process of what is colloquially known as impeachment contains two steps. The first step, the one that is technically the impeachment, is taken by the House of Representatives. By a simple majority, the House can vote to impeach a federal official. This process is akin to an indictment in an ordinary criminal proceeding. Then, once the official is impeached, the Senate holds a trial to determine if the official should be convicted, in which case the official is removed from office. The Senate, however, needs a two-thirds majority to convict.
     
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    Careful. Explaining how things actually work can get YOU IMPEACHED!!!!11!11ELEVEN!111
     
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    This is the Kavanaugh Mess we feared:


    The latest Kavanaugh revelations, as we predicted, were inevitable. The cursory and artificially restricted FBI investigation was a farce, a Kabuki dance to give Republicans cover to vote for him. When a Democratic majority in the House and a Democratic president (if they prevail in 2020) decide to waive privileges, open the investigation up to scrutiny and demand that FBI Director Christopher A. Wray testify, more and more evidence will tumble out. And then what? We'll revisit the same fight we had in the Kavanaugh hearing. While a Democratic House might conceivably impeach him for lying under oath, the Senate would never obtain a two-thirds majority that would leave the "Kennedy seat" to be filled by a Democratic president.

    Kavanaugh already is tainted in the eyes of those who believe he lied when he denied any and all allegations of sexual conduct as well as excessive drinking. A cloud hangs over the Supreme Court as things stand, and perhaps it would get darker with some investigation. Nevertheless, Kavanaugh would remain — given that Republicans would never vote to remove him and Kavanaugh would never resign. The credibility, fairness and honesty of the court will be in doubt for as long as he sits on the court.

    If Democrats do win the White House, they may pursue this, or worse, ratchet up the Supreme Court wars by adding seats ( Well, Kavanaugh's vote shouldn't count! And the Gorsuch seat was illegitimate, too! ). The Supreme Court will continue to hemorrhage respect and legitimacy. And the pattern will continue, another institutional casualty in the Trump era. If only Collins had displayed the courage to demand a legitimate investigation, both parties, the Senate and the Supreme Court might have avoided this debacle.​
     
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    My goodness, even after the NYT piece was totally discredited (the alleged victim denied it!), you still have people pushing impeachment of Kavanaugh. He was exonerated fully by the FBI investigation, which means that those calling for his impeachment are doing so on purely political grounds, and not on the merits. Your game is up -- and you are making a mockery of the Supreme Court, all the while harassing an innocent man in Kavanaugh. It will once again backfire on you.

    I bet you voted for Bill Clinton, too. A man who ACTUALLY sexually assaulted an intern in the Oval Office. Total hypocrisy.

    GOOD DAY
     
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    Bill Clinton was never accused of sexually assaulting an intern in the Oval Office. Try again.
     
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    Careful, that’s part of the derail strategy.
     
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    We need another thread.
     
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    But was willing to lie about their affair and unequivocally destroy her life in the process. What a guy.
     
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    Maybe we can go back to beating that dead horse if old Bill is nominated for a spot on the SCOTUS. But for now, that dude is very far from relevant. The poster you quoted was just trying to correct an intentional mistatement in an attempt at derail, which really everyone should have ignored. But here we are.

    Media needs to keep investigating if there's smoke to investigate. But Dems need to stay the hell away from the Kav-bro issue.
     
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    The NYT is getting killed over this story. They have now been thoroughly ridiculed for lack of journalistic integrity -- even by liberal bastions like CNN. The damage is done in terms of the 2020 election. Harris, Warren, Sanders, Beto, and Booker have all come out for impeachment of Kavanaugh based on the now discredited NYT Kavanaugh/Ramirez story. This issue ignites and unites Republicans -- even those who don't like Trump.

    There needs to be consequences when a major media outlet behaves in such a reckless and dishonest manner. The ultimate price however, will be paid as the NYT continues to see its credibility erode.

    GOOD DAY
     
  19. DaDakota

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    They should impeach Trump, and put it on the Senate.

    DD
     
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    If the Dems in the House had the votes, then they would have already voted to impeach. They don't have the votes, because this issue is too ridiculous to get passed even by today's Democrats.

    GOOD DAY
     

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