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Lawrence Odonnell: Source says Russians co-signed loans for Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by justtxyank, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    The lengths Trumpers go to make excuses for him.

    1. Money laundering at his casinos
    2. Fraud at Trump University
    3. Fraud at Trump Charities

    Just to name a few - the guy has been a crook his entire life, they will get him, as soon as he is out of office.

    DD
     
  2. Invisible Fan

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    There is a pattern where Trump apologists are marks who don't realize they're marks.

    Their favorite word is likely sheeple, which they constantly mutter after reading their FB feed about the woes of other Americans.

    They're broke paycheck-to-paycheck millionaires who just happen to be down on their luck.
     
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  3. bigtexxx

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    The story got retracted. Did you conveniently not read that part? So the "Trumpers" were right in this thread.
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    I actually believe it's the opposite. The left are the sheeple who simple parrot back the biased media's talking points. Did you not see the leaked NY Times information that came out, discussing how they're going to pivot away from the Russian story (since it was proven to be bunk) and towards a "Republicans are racist" angle? Or maybe they've also moved on to a "we're in a recession!" line of thinking, when we're clearly not.

    They're controlling the narrative, and the left simply falls for it, because it fits the narrative they want to be true, and it helps justify their belief as to "why they're correct".
     
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  5. Invisible Fan

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    Russian story was not bunk..Just not slam dunk conviction. It be like Colin Powell telling the security council Iraq was a slam dunk for wmd, only to find mobile biochemical labs.

    The other thing about the Mueller and the Report, he felt he didn't have grounds to try a sitting president. His word, not the lib MSM.

    Still Impeachable. Not bunk.

    I found your doncha kno interesting so I looked it up. The right leaning rags all paraphrase a leaked slate transcript. Ofc, the transcript in all its words doesn't actually present your (or your sources?) accusation.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate....2019/08/new-york-times-meeting-transcript.amp

    The editor got a lot of flak for not freely using the word racist in their articles. He also mentioned moving on from Mueller but it wasn't explicitly saying they should write mouthpieces against a racist president. Their core readers want and complain for that but his role is to wedge more independent stances. Pivot...sure, not pivoting would be like taking about Benghazi to this day. Agenda shift... dubious and up to your interpretation of the transcript.

    I think people are waiting for a recession like Californians waiting for the Big One. It's that a lib only feeling?

    It's easy to dump that one on Trump. Poor guy. No one cares about his feewings.

    Nasty.
     
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  6. No Worries

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    Fake News.
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    You’ve got to be kidding me. You’re still a Russian collusion truther, even after all the report came out? There wasn’t any evidence of collusion.
     
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    But but people went to jail. Keep on punkin these TDS crazed libtards Tex and you’re right they fall right in line with what they’ve been told to think even using the exact same lingo in many cases it’s mind control on the next level.
     
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  9. FranchiseBlade

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    We just looked at the report and all the evidence it contained. Did you want to comment on the actual evidence or play the slap-a-derisive-label-on-people-with-a-different-opinion game?
     
  10. Invisible Fan

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    The report has several cases where he ordered people to contact the Russians.

    Either they refused that order (then subsequently quit) or contacted the wrong Russians.

    Pretty sad decline for a guy who frothed at the mouth when a sitting president lied about a blowie.
     
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  11. dobro1229

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    Dude the Dow dropped like 800 points in a day based on a Trump tweet and bounced back a few days later when Trump lied about a call with China that never happened.

    No... a dip in the stock market doesn’t mean we are heading into a recession, but it is evidence that Trump drives media narrative and rarely does it happen the other way around. Again an example of Trumper fantasyland where Trump and by extension you are victims of a massive conspiracy. Woe is me apathy at its finest. It’s pathetic and childish. Everything is about you and Trump being victims.

    Nobody forced Trump to sign an agreement to engage directly with the Kremlin on Trump Tower Moscow. Nobody forced Don Jr. to take a meeting with Russians to get dirt on Hillary Clinton and then have his dad concoct a lie about adoptions.

    That is news that Trump inflicted on himself that drew in an audience to the Trump Russia scandal. Not the other way around. Grow the F up and take some freaking responsibility. This whole the media is out to get us self loathing is pathetic.

    Are there media outlets having back room discussions about scandals with Trump they can run to drive coverage...??... of course there are. Is it a grand conspiracy of made up fake stories meant to drive Americans away from a well meaning and truth telling Saint of a president??? Hell no.

    What the media does drive on Trump is 99% of the time self inflicted scandal and it deserves outrage 98% of the time. Trumps personal attorney is currently in jail for crimes Trump ordered him to commit to help defraud the America people and win an election. These are massive stories, and deserve the attention of everyone. You want to talk sheep??.... let’s talk about people who are so drunk on political power they are willing to sacrifice everything their religion stands for just for the sake of political gamesmanship. You have people who support Trump who spent every waking minute of their lives talking about God, and the Holy Spirit all the sudden defend someone who brags about sexual assault, makes fun of disabled people, calls Mexicans rapists, and raw dogs a p*rn star while his wife is pregnant.

    Yeah... let’s talk about sheep please.
     
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  12. DaDakota

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    Actually, he said it was one source, not that it wasn’t true.

    DD
     
  13. BigDog63

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    Just like all those on the left ignoring or making excuses for far greater crimes. Clean up your house before casting stones...or admit you are a hypocrite and not really worth paying attention to.
     
  14. BigDog63

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    In journalism...one source isn't true, by definition, as it is uncorroborated. Which is why MSNBC was going to lose the lawsuit, which is why he was forced to retract the statement.

    Hey, everyone did you know that DaDakota is running a p*rn ring? Pretty sure, because one guy told me so.

    So, DaDakota...do you agree that this is the right process?

    Further, even if true, his story had no 'so what' to it, outside of trying to continue the false Russia Russia Russia narrative...unless you can point to exactly what law would be broken having people cosign a loan?

    Will assume that absent your evidence of this, that you admit you have nothing here, and you are defacto also retracting your statements.
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    Do you work in a law enforcement agency that handles sex trafficking? Are you a prosecutor who handles trafficking cases? If not, you don't make good analogies.

    The one source works for Deutsche Bank. It isn't some rando interent posters. Many huge news stories have been leaked to journalists by single sources.

    Also, I'll repeat:

    Trump has horrible defaulting history with investment loans and only Deutsche Bank would do business with him. Coincidentally Deutsche Bank was also fined 20 billion dollars before for laundering money for Russian oligarchs.

    It becomes more obvious some quid pro quo happened when Donald defaulted on his first 200 million dollar loan with Deutsche bank and the bank STILL approved him for another 200 million dollar loan.

    Also another coincidence, a employee for Deutsche Bank flagged Donald's account for key signs of potential laundering and sent it up to the execs. Coincidentally the execs didn't do anything about it and ignored it. The employee was later fired.


    Ask yourself if those are reasonable grounds for suspicion.

    Also, the special counsel did not look into the money laundering issue and Deutsche Bank. It was outside their scope.
     
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  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    LOL - are you kidding me - Christians supporting Trump, and for the death penalty while at the same breath against abortion.

    The Greatest crime right now is that we have a crook, a pedophile and a con man in the White House, and people who PRETEND to have integrity support him.

    Anyone WITH ACTUAL INTEGRITY would be ashamed of Trump.

    And I would love it if we had tougher laws on the books for calling yourself a NEWS program - ......so I am ok with him pulling back as he only had 1 source, but we all know that does NOT make it untrue.

    DD
     
  17. BigDog63

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    Then why did they retract it and make ODonnell apologize?

    Also, I'll repeat:

    Hence the cosigner...

    Reasonable grounds for suspicion vs statements of facts are two completely different things.

    Meaning we don't really have much corroborated information...my very point. Also interesting because they investigated quite a bit that was outside their scope...why not this?
     

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