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7 High-Paying Jobs You Can Get Without a 4-Year College Degree

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  1. BruceAndre

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    As the college and university world continues to go leftist, and the cost of same rises exponentially, there is hope: You don't need to go to college to make money.

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    What careers pay the most? Air traffic controllers made a median annual salary of $124,540 in 2017, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the highest among occupations that generally require an associate degree. Radiation therapists earned $80,570, and dental hygienists took home $74,070. (Plenty of jobs that only require a high-school diploma pay well too, sometimes rivaling or exceeding those for an associate degree. You can find a list of those here.)

    More at link:

    http://money.com/money/5652127/associate-highest-paying-jobs/?
     
  2. TheRealist137

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    Kids. Don’t listen to someone that believes dumbass things like this.
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    There's lot's to be said for the kids who don't/can't do college going to trade school. You can make a hell of a living.
     
  4. Jontro

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    i will no longer recognize and acknowledge my college degree
     
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    Ignore who the OP is because he's right on this one. Very good living wages for blue collar, middleclass, makes for a great economy. Spending 100k for a degree that pays 50k a year takes years to recoup and for those who are not "good" at school they will never recoup the money spent to flame out of college and have nothing to show for it.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    I wrote my thesis in "life experience". Haven't used my degree for a damn thing.
     
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  8. BruceAndre

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    Yep, this. And I took no joy in (seemingly) running down college; I loved the academic/intellectual life.

    But it's not for everyone, and now that the cost/benefit ratio is seriously lopsided in the wrong direction, it makes little to no sense for a significant number of people.

    There's also an interesting and important debate about to hit college/universities -- what is their purpose? A broader "liberal" education? Or job training?

    Getting a "liberal" education -- in the old sense -- might have made sense for some people, when the costs were reasonable. Nowadays?

    Expect this debate to come up more and more, driven by the student debt "crisis."
     
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I remember the good old days when going to UT cost 200 dollars a semester.
     
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    You can get a great job without a degree, but it’s getting more difficult.

    Going out of state or private for some degrees might be a bad idea, but any degree can still help you in the beginning.

    I have friends that make fantastic money as operators or in the car biz, but their hours suck and upward mobility is limited. But they are providing for their family which is good.
     
  11. Exiled

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    why can't we all be underwear models ,screw education
     
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  12. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    The idea that education isn't for everyone is typically the notion of those without an education. Pursuing a trade and pursuing an education are not mutually exclusive. OP is a tool of dopey "conservative" politicians that continually deride education in favor of ignorant "common sense".
     
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    plumbers make great money
     
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    Cost / benefit analysis should be taken into account when pursuing post-secondary education. This is known.
     
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    lol.
    Bruce's rich intellectual life-
    r/incels
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    www.prageru.com/
     
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    I hate newbs with their entitlement, but I would look into coding bootcamps if you're decent with a computer.
     
  17. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    Not everyone is cut out for college, or even wants to go to college. Some people are perfectly happy stocking shelves at Kroger, some people are happy swinging a hammer for a living. I would love it if we had a school system like Germany that would realistically prep people for their adult life.

    GERMAN SCHOOL SYSTEM

    School-level education in German is the responsibility of the 16 individual Länder(federal states), which each have their own education departments and policies. The following is a general summary of the main stages of the German education system at school level.



    Pre-school education (Kindergarten)
    Before the period of compulsory schooling begins, children aged three to six can attend pre-school institutions. Unlike schools, pre-school education is not free and attendance at Kindergarten is voluntary.



    Primary level (Grundschule)
    Normally, schooling for all children begins at the age of six in the first year of a Grundschule. Children attend the Grundschule for four years (six in Berlin and Brandenburg), after which they transfer to one of four different types of secondary school.



    Secondary level
    Secondary level I can consist of any of the following: Hauptschule (Klasse 5-9 or 10), Realschule (Klasse 5-10), Gymnasium (Klasse 5-10), or Gesamtschule. When they finish Secondary level I, students can obtain a leaving certificate and /or the Mittlere Reifeexamination. Depending on what they obtain, they can then start work, do vocational training, go to a vocational school, or continue in / transfer to a Gymnasium.



    Hauptschule
    In the majority of the federal states, students spend five years at the Hauptschule. The main objective of the Hauptschule is to prepare students for their entry into the world of work. Once students have obtained their Hauptschulabschluss (leaving certificate) at the age of 15-16, they can go into vocational training, start entry-level work in the public sector, or attend a Berufsfachschule (full-time vocational school).



    Realschule
    Students attend the Realschule for 6 years. It gives them a broader general education and expects them to show greater independence. In comparison with the Gymnasium, the pupils are given a more vocationally-oriented education. At the end of Klasse 10 they obtain the Realschulabschluss (leaving certificate), which gives them different options: in-company vocational training, work in the public sector at entry and executive level, or further school-level education at secondary level II or at a Fachhochschule.



    Gymnasium
    Students attend the Gymnasium for eight or nine years before they take their final examination (Abitur or Hochschulreife). The Gymnasium is designed to provide students with an education which will enable them, once they have passed their Abitur, to study at a German university or equivalent. Students at secondary level II (the last two or three years at the Gymnasium) select two or three Leistungskurse (specialist subjects). Their Abitur mark is based on the assessment of these Leistungskurse and two other subjects.



    Gesamtschule
    The Gesamtschule (comprehensive school) combines elements from the Hauptschule, the Realschule and the Gymnasium. This type of school was introduced later than the others. Students usually spend six years at the Gesamtschule and either obtain a Hauptschule or a Realschule leaving certificate. Pupils wishing to sit the Abitur attend the school for another three years.

    There are also other schools which combine two or three school types in various ways; the way in which this is done varies between the federal states, as do the names used.

    Children with special educational needs mostly attend special schools (Sonderschulen), although there is currently a move towards more a inclusive education model.
     
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  18. BrieflySpeaking

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    yup, OP is correct. I don't care about politics in education but you don't need a 4 year degree to have a respectable career and make decent money. I have 2 Associate Degree, one to work in the petrochemical industry as a process operator and an Aviation degree. Became an operator for some time before getting the call from the FAA to become an air traffic controller. It's do-able. Both are blue-collared type work and I love it.
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    I'd say the liberal education in the old sense is the most valuable part of a college education. For the job-training, you can do an ROI to decide if it's worth it. For the intellectual enrichment, there isn't really a quantifiable way to say it costs too much.
     
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  20. Yung-T

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    This conveniently leaves out the fact that you can barely get into career paths like air traffic controller or radiation therapy, lift technician etc nowadays, as the word spread quickly and everyone applied.

    Supply far exceeds demand in these fields, so it's really misleading to tell kids that they can earn extremely high salaries without a proper degree.
     
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