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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets13champs, Jun 7, 2019.

  1. rockets13champs

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    Capela for a wing and middle first rounder?

    Atlanta you awake?
     
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    Bol would be amazing at C. He would develop into Capela with a 3 point shot
     
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    foot navicular fracture. very rare injury for athletes and for a 7'2 big man. not good. no thanks
     
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    That fracture only takes 2-3 months to heal. Embiid had a similar injury he took his time to build his frame. And now look at him. Trust me 2-3 years from now. It’ll be a Giannis situation. Everyone will be like why the **** did 8-10 teams pass on him.
     
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    not sure about that. but of course only time will tell. at the same time we have guys like Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Yao Ming who had these navicular fracutures so theres plenty of reason to be extremely hesitant here
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...not-one-that-will-affect-his-draft-stock/amp/

    So did Jordan and Embiid. The fact is he is a risk you take in a great developmental organization Houston has. The way we let Capela develop for 2-3 years behind Dwight. Bol Bol will develop the same behind DAJ
     
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    We don't have 2-3 years(and I would argue that is more like 4 or 5 years) to wait and see if he may become good or even if he may become healthy. We have an MVP candidate and a window right now. Only a fool would sacrifice that real opportunity for a risky long term play - TRUST MEEEEEEEEEEEE.
     
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    if the stars aligned that could be true but alot obviously has to happen for even things to look this way. the rockets have their own issues trying to get a impact player here at the moment
     
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    ...also want to note that Giannis and Joel are two guys who actually managed to put on significant muscle to their frame despite being very skinny earlier on but they both had larger trunks which would indicate that they still had room to grow into their body. Bol Bol does NOT have that body type and we also know that his father(whom he looks like a carbon copy of), NEVER managed to put any muscle or weight on to his frame even post retirement. Even the most amazing trainers aren't going to be able to change genetics.
     
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    The most realistic thing I learned in this video is that Embiid's standing reach is just an inch less than this guy. That's amazing. Wish Embiid hadn't allowed himself to get into such poor shape.
     
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    On a separate but related note, watching other team's young players develop into difference makers throughout the playoffs really makes me miss having draft picks. Morey's shown he is great at finding value in the draft - would love if our depth came from young developing players instead of the bargain-bin Iman Shumperts.
     
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    So did Yao and Ilgauskus. :(
     
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    with today’s medicine and sports medicine in development. And load management I think we could build Bol Bol up the right way
     
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    I don't know about that. Did this guy build Yao up the right way? Because he's still in charge.

    [​IMG]
     
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    It’s not about guy. Medicine is ever evolving. We simply don’t diagnose and treat the same way we did 5 years ago let alone 15+ years ago.
     
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    Here's what will happen if we get this kid .

    MDA will probably still be the coach this year. He would rather test management than alter his style and won't play him .

    Either that , or it's a joint decision to develop him in the g-league as we "contend"

    Then after his contract expires we will bring in a new coach .

    So the kid will have had to learn two different systems in two different years . Obviously , he will still make rookie mistakes . He will not be given free reign to try and play his natural style , we will pigeonhole him into a role

    He will play poorly , his confidence will get shot . He will probably suffer an injury from our trainers trying to bulk him up too quickly .

    We will look to trade him the next year but ultimately fail because of his lowered stock and no one wanting to take a chance exercising his 4th year option . We DO exercise him option to try to keep him as an asset to trade during the offseason / deadline.

    Ultimately , we will get nothing for him or pay some team to take him to lower our tax hit .

    It's then 50/50 whether the player recovers his form and another organization can fix his development
     
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    Damn. That’s a sad story man.
     
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    I know it's hyperbole , but I'm not that confident in our development department right now .

    Our biggest success story of the last 5 years is Clint and a lot of what he is , is thanks to James .

    I know we haven't had good draft position , and that does play a factor .

    But it seems like we've had some guys with decent tools and seemingly good fit but they haven't broken through .

    Moreover , guys that have left from as far back as Morris and as recently as Harrell have stuck around in the league . So , it's not like we are getting guys devoid of talent .

    Maybe our roster is just THAT good and the floor is too high for young guys to break in .

    But I've seen plenty of great teams able to work in younger guys and when they aren't playing , they practice up with the NBA team. They aren't just relegated to the g-league . Do you think the rockets top trainers are down in Rio grande or up with the real club ?

    Sure you might get lucky and pick a kid that is a self-developer , but most 19 year olds are clueless .

    If the goal is truly to maximize talent and win in the playoffs , the season needs to be about maximizing talent and developing as much as you can to prepare for the playoffs .

    Of course you aren't comfortable with guys like Clark and hartenstein getting minutes in the playoffs because they hardly had any PT.
     
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    I still cant believe Keith Jones is still part of the organization.

    He should have been fired ages ago.
     

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