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James Harden Stats Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shaq2Yao, Nov 11, 2017.

  1. ElPigto

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    You know how people like to claim that Harden would not be scoring this many points if he didn't get free throws? What do you think they will say now?
     
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    What's the meaning of that sign?
     
  3. Koperboy

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    They will say refs let him inflate his scoring during regular season. Record breaking is good for the league.

    I wish they would ref both playoffs and regular season the same.
     
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    i think on that stepback 3 he hit exactly 50 points
     
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    Wow. Great job, Koperboy. That stat is indefensible, especially considering how elite Harden is at drawing fouls. The comparison to Curry is absurd.
     
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    How much of this is the defense being played against him? He's being funneled into the paint where a lot of times the primary defender is not even trying to stop his penetration and he tosses up a lob or a floater before he can get fouled by someone like Gobert. It'll be interesting to see if they change the defense and how it affects the FT's. Also, it's only been 2 games. There have been plenty of games during the season where he didn't get double-digit free throws. Doesn't mean the NBA had something against him at the time. The average doesn't guarantee outcome. :)

    The one move I thought they'd tag him on repeatedly in the playoffs (if there was a revenge motive for the refs) is that one he started using where he bumps off the defender to open up space for a shot.
     
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    Stay Alert, Clutchfans. Harden's drop in FTAs is by design of the defense.
    • Rubio even mentioned it in the post-game interview.
    • Bucks are also on record saying "No Fouls" is a primary purpose of the defense. Taking away the Harden step-back, and creating an ICE Wall to reduce his passing are the others
    • as @Dr of Dunk said, you Shade the left arm to take the 3 away, and you allow the drive to reduce fouls
     
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  8. Koperboy

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    I think anyone who watched Game 1 agrees Harden could have made at least three more trips to the line. Also some fouls called on him were downright hilarious, like Gobert tripping over Harden's foot...
     
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  9. Koperboy

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    This is true for Game 2, not for Game 1 though. Look at my post above.
     
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    There really haven't been enough games played to make too much of it, I guess, but I think it's worth keeping an eye on going forward. What tripped me out was looking at the early playoff defensive rankings. Utah, a terrific regular season defensive team, is 15th out of the 16 teams in net defense. We're 3rd. It's just 2 games, at least for the Rockets and Jazz, but it's fun to look at. Boston is 1st and Brooklyn is last.
     
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    So, are those unassisted blow-bys?
     
  13. Reeko

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    heard this recently

    James Harden in isolation: 1.12 points per 100 possessions

    average half court offense: 0.95 points/100

    average isolation possession: 0.9 points/100

    Harden running a typically very inefficient play type much more than anyone else in the league produces 17 more points per 100 possessions than your average half court offense...insane
     
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  14. Handles

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    I get what you’re saying, but what this post actually says is he scores 0.17 more points per 100 ;)

    I think you meant to say per possession
     
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    Not just that but how often Harden gets to the paint compared to Curry.

    No way that Curry's play style generates more fta than Harden.
     
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    yeah...meant to say 1.12/possession, .95/possession, and .9/possession

    it was early in the morning lol
     
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    They're just going to say "clearly he's not being aggressive and is choking. Curry gets all of those playoff free throws because his aggressiveness goes over 9000."

    There's no arguing with a shapeshifter.
     
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    Harden repeatedly gets run over by gobert after his floaters, especially in the first game. He didn’t get a single call and i think not getting the calls affected his floaters a bit and forcing James to do longer floaters. Refs have definitely swallowed the whistle a bit against him
     
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  20. Koperboy

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    There you go. The disparity is not so big anymore, but Harden is still in last place :)

     
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