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Bye Net Neutrality

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by wizkid83, Nov 21, 2017.

  1. zeeshan2

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    They'll boil the frog. 10 years from now defenders of this will just say "These changes would have happened no matter what"
     
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    Another poster has been urging me not to be negative, so I have a positive idea for overcoming the future nightmare: we need to circumvent ISP's as much as possible by making every cell phone a hotspot. Bounce things from phone to phone like the Tor browser does.
     
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    I think people already do that. It's called meshnet i think but I'm not sure of the quality on those networks
     
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    LOL. I like it.

    Not sure if you watch the show Silicon Valley, but I think that's what they are trying to develop in the show. That show does seem to mirror what is being talked about as a development opp in the tech industry though.

    I'd be interested to see what VC firms are seeing in potential value of tech that can potentially compete with ISP's. Haven't heard much about what companies are seriously developing this tech though. I would think that it would be widely popular and get heavy crowd funding though.
     
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    no ****. thats what i just told you above. The point was to show that the current administration is not implementing NN. The one practice that had been found to be violating NN, zero rating, was ignored. NN has been ignored since Trump took office.

    this article is telling you exactly what i did. ISPs are violating NN and it doesn't matter because the new administration (Trump) isn't enforcing it. If nobody is enforcing it, it doesn't really exist.

    They already where.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...-att-and-verizon-of-violating-net-neutrality/

    nobody noticed. nobody cared.
     
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    This seems worthy of floating this thread back up:
    https://www.cnet.com/news/fccs-net-neutrality-ddos-story-falls-apart-ajit-pai-blames-previous-admin/

    FCC finally admits that the "DDoS attack" line was complete BS. Not that anyone except conservative wingnuts ever believed that in the first place.

    Along with all the proven fraud in the comments system, this will not put Ajit Pai's FCC in a positive light in court.

    For bonus points, Pai's attempt to somehow blame Obama for this is utterly hysterical.
     
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    Another thing that Make America Great Again.
     
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    Because of course, throttling doesn't happen...

    Verizon throttled fire department’s “unlimited” data during Calif. wildfire
    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...rtments-unlimited-data-during-calif-wildfire/
     
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    Eh, that is unrelated to net neutrality. Throttling all usage is fine. It is unequally throttling that net neutrality is supposed to prevent.

    Embarrassing for Verizon to not have lifted the cap for an emergency, but that is it.
     
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    I do agree with this. NN is a big and important issue to me, but data caps isn't really a NN issue. More like an FTC issue, because you're shouldn't be able to market something as "unlimited" that's... you know... limited. So this might be the start of the slow death of limited plans that are called unlimited, but nothing to see here on NN.

    Of course, the misinformation campaign from industry lobbyists and the FCC themselves is so insane, that if the legislators think that pretending this is a NN issue will help move the needle, turnabout is fair play I guess.
     
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    The media fear mongers. What else is new?

     
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    I hope you have the opportunity to shake Putin's hand one day.
     
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    Idiots like yourself celebrating their own stupidity without realizing it?
     
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    Am I become death?
     
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    What's an ignorant headline by CNN, as ignorant as someone that think they would immediately see or not see impact and it's business as usual after repeal.

    Just look up a few posts about boiling the frog. That hopefully is easy to understand.

    BTW, the official repeal of net neutrality is on 6/11/18.
     
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    I will enjoy my ISP rate cut (while enjoying the improved service and content) I didn't get alongside the tax cut and raise I didn't get from the corporate and 1% tax cut...
     
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    A year without net neutrality and the internet is faster.

    Who is supposed to read this article when we are all dead because no net neutrality?

    Again. Net neutrality has not been enforced since trump took office. Every isp knows this.

    I will enjoy the moving of the goal posts for the next ten years as nothing changes.
     
  19. Amiga

    Amiga I get vaunted sacred revelations from social media
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    Internet is faster because there is a thing call technology advancement. Are you in any tech field?

    NN rules didn’t ends until recently. Are you arguing against that simple fact?
     
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    Techniqually they were gone a few months ago, but in reality, which is what matters, NN has been gone for two years. If it's not enforced and everyone knows it, then it doesnt exist.

    Tech advancement you say? I was told this was the end of the internet by everyone from CNN to planned parenthood .
     

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