I will shut down the government. I will take that mantle

Its politics. Of course she might have welcomed it. Just going off of her statement post meeting.

 

The 12 year old in charge gotta 12 year old.

 

I think he he told pence to sit there and keep his mouth shut. It’s all about perception and if he makes pence look weak it makes him look stronger to his base by comparison. He’s trying to keep them from turning on him. It’s less likely they go along with impeachment if they see the next guy as a sniveling coward. Trump is never speaking to anyone but his supporters, that’s the lens you have to look through.

 

If winning includes increasing the likelihood of a shutdown, then sure. We lost though. Btw, when the hell are we going to get ourselves off this treadmill of temporary funding deals? It is not healthy to have a system in which people threaten to take the whole government hostage several times a year.

 

because they thought it was disrespectful to the office to be sitting there on live tv calling the president a liar to his face.

 

Trump is now using the attack in Strasbourg as a reason for why we need the wall. If he really cared about terrorism, wouldn't he try to do something about the homegrown domestic terrorism that occurs almost on a weekly basis here in the US?

 

So true. What is the plan by Dems for border security? I'm not even saying they need one, but they should at least take a stance. Trump definitely makes it seem like Dems just want open borders like the EU.

 

House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said $1.6 billion is an agreeable figure for border security funding so long as the language doesn’t require it be spent on a wall. (Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call file photo)

Lindsey McPherson
@lindsemcpherson
Posted Dec 4, 2018 12:46 PM
House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer said Tuesday that border wall funding remains the principle unresolved item in year-end spending negotiations and suggested that $1.6 billion is an agreeable figure for border security so long as the language does not require it to be spent on the wall.

“The $1.6 billion ... the language is broader than just a wall, so I think that that could probably be agreed upon, which was a figure in the Senate bill," the Maryland Democrat told reporters.

The problem is that President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans are pushing for $5 billion in wall funding. Some House Democrats prefer zero money be appropriated for the wall, and Hoyer suggested that the language can be drafted broadly enough to appease most of his caucus.

The Senate Homeland Security appropriations bill, which was reported out of committee but never debated on the floor, includes $1.6 billion for “approximately 65 miles of pedestrian fencing along the southwest border in the Rio Grande Valley Sector.”

How congressional negotiators bridge the gap between $1.6 billion and $5 billion remains to be seen. They’ll have an extra two weeks to figure it out as Congress is planning to pass a stopgap funding bill extending current funding, which is set to expire Friday, through Dec. 21.

The House is not holding roll call votes this week due to George H.W. Bush lying in state in the Capitol rotunda and his funeral proceedings later this week. The chamber will likely pass the two-week continuing resolution on Thursday by unanimous consent, Hoyer said.

Hoyer said he and Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi preferred a one-week stopgap so that Congress could wrap up its work next week, which is when the House had been scheduled to adjourn for the year

“I’m hopeful we can do that,” he said.

Seven of the 12 annual appropriations bills are running on a continuing resolution and should Congress not act by their new deadline of Dec. 21 or continue to kick the can down the road there would be a partial government shutdown.

Trump has said he is willing to shutter government agencies to secure the $5 billion he wants for the border wall.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/polit...rity-could-probably-be-agreed-upon-hoyer-says

 

they forgot delusional, hypocritical, willfully ignorant and sycophant.

trump supporters are also very forgetful...'member that trumps central campaign promise was that he was going to build a wall AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT...now trump wants the american taxpayer to fund it or he will shut down the government. his supporters dont seem to care that he went back on that promise.

 

really good point. I agree with you 100% Trump should aim to maintain consistency with all previous Presidents who have kept their campaign promises.

 

most presidents dont go back on their central campaign promises. and most presidents supporters dont so easily go along when they do.

 

so are the mexicans gonna pay for it? or just build it? where do i sign up?

 

Very true if they can stay out of the mud but those two will give in and allow him to drag them in.

 

Economy?

 

wOW you can try and spin anything I guess. LOL.

 

or you can try to imagine something from someone else's perspective

 

yeah you need a hell of a imagination to get what she came up with.

 

retired law professor from a top 30 law school. I'd say she's entitled to her views

 

Yeah, they do tend to shoot themselves in the foot. When Hillary talked about putting a lot of people out of work in mining country, and then smiling a thumbs up at someone in the audience, I face-palmed: What. Are. You. Doing.