1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

When will Morey make a move?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bratna8, Nov 27, 2018.

?

When do we make our move

  1. Soon

    23.8%
  2. After Dec. 15th

    54.1%
  3. Trade deadline

    22.1%
  1. moestavern19

    moestavern19 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 1999
    Messages:
    39,003
    Likes Received:
    3,637
    Please Mauri, need 7 undersized PFs to make our team great again.
     
    pippendagimp and daywalker02 like this.
  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2001
    Messages:
    26,577
    Likes Received:
    35,648
    Luxury tax savings and/or realizing an asset.
     
  3. BigBum

    BigBum Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2018
    Messages:
    3,860
    Likes Received:
    1,346
    Capela is not-so-happy on this contract compared to Chris Paul. Capela did not make 100% effort.
    Gordon is seeking for overpaid contract.
    I'd trade Capela and Gordon too.
     
  4. macan

    macan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    6,878
    Likes Received:
    10,487
    trade capela for Jordan, bring DJ home!
    trade Gordon with picks for white Gordon/Beal
    trade MCW, chriss plus picks for a 3 and D wing
    get Ariza from buyout market later on
     
  5. Vivi

    Vivi Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2016
    Messages:
    18,561
    Likes Received:
    20,774
    Capela spends a lot of time going after little guys, probably more than our guards lol, i really fail to see how he's not playing hard...he's also one of the few guys who constantly run up and down the court and try to help from the weak side.
     
    Corrosion, clutchdabear and bulkatron like this.
  6. RocketsFido

    RocketsFido Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2013
    Messages:
    8,971
    Likes Received:
    10,094
    If we lose the next 2, Morey will be forced to make a move.

    It's sad because other teams know we're desperate and will have the leverage over us.

    If he really can't add some solid role players or another star to this team, he needs have a serious chat with Tilman about tanking this season.
     
    JamalP. likes this.
  7. Der Rabbi

    Der Rabbi Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2002
    Messages:
    801
    Likes Received:
    430
    Kind of. Since the players the players that the Rockets have to trade are generally on one year deals and must match within 80%? (can't remember exact %) they may be hard to trade for Morris or Oubre who are also on the last year of their deals. (Oubre I think is a RFA next season). The savings for them would be to trade Porters' 2 more years of mid 20s to get off their books for luxury tax savings. I think the only way the Rockets get to that number without giving up Gordon, Tucker or Capella is to include Knight's big number. This isn't the last year of Knights deal so the Wiz would only be saving the 3rd year on Porter's big contract. I bet some other team would give them matching salaries that expire at the end of the year thereby saving them 2 years worth of Porter's big number and its luxury tax hit.

    I don't think anyone is looking at Knight, Chriss, Melo, Nene or MCW as assets.
     
    #67 Der Rabbi, Nov 29, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2018
  8. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2000
    Messages:
    27,031
    Likes Received:
    21,259
    for a team trying to tank this year, those are ideal assets
     
    clutchdabear and hakeem94 like this.
  9. BigBum

    BigBum Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2018
    Messages:
    3,860
    Likes Received:
    1,346
    I have a feeling this morning.

    In Dec 15, Rockets will deal Knight/MCW/melo for Ariza. My question is

    Would you do it if Suns want 2 future lottery protected First?

    This would save Tilman $7 million (tax 1.75*(1.5+1.0)) this year and $30M+ next year.
     
  10. Downtown Sniper

    Downtown Sniper Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    8,091
    Likes Received:
    10,626
    LMAO.

    That's what Morey would do before slamming down the phone.

    Of course, this is after he's choked on his drink when he heard 2 firsts for Ariza.
     
    Little Bit likes this.
  11. BigBum

    BigBum Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2018
    Messages:
    3,860
    Likes Received:
    1,346
    Suns take Knight's bad contract for 2 Firsts.

    You need Suns for dumping salary, Suns don't need you.
     
  12. RocketOrg

    RocketOrg Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2017
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    656
    I like Tucker but we’re thin at PF and could benefit from a 6’9” ish player with a decent jumper that can play defense. Perhaps Tucker can be packed with EG for Beal and Morris. then you have to pull the trigger. Perhaps package with Eric Gordon and another bench player. All I know is that we’re getting very little production from the PF position. Tue Rockets can’t afford to get a measly 6 points every night with limited production from out SF’s.
     
  13. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2000
    Messages:
    27,031
    Likes Received:
    21,259
    i'm not entirely convinced morey is going to be making the move(s) everyone is hoping for and expecting. at some point tilman is going to instruct him to start shedding salary to reduce lux tax. no way he's going to pay $16M tax for a non-contender this year.
     
    Corrosion likes this.
  14. clutchdabear

    clutchdabear Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,019
    Likes Received:
    2,472
    good suggestions on both - rockets really could use another legit scoring wing, although i might prefer warren because of his size and how efficient he is on the offensive end. he's really underrated. warren gets buckets so easily.. was always a great scorer since college. and now he's become a nice 3pt shooter
     
    ApacheWarrior likes this.
  15. RocketsFido

    RocketsFido Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2013
    Messages:
    8,971
    Likes Received:
    10,094
    The longer he waits, the less leverage he'll have in a trade. Every team will start to think he's desperate and try to get the most out of him.

    Actually, every other GM probably knows that already because of the 4 first rounders leak for Butler.
     
  16. blackistan

    blackistan Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    2,110
    Likes Received:
    712
    We better not waste Harden's time here like the Texans did with Andre
     
  17. carib

    carib Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2007
    Messages:
    663
    Likes Received:
    141
    This is rough stuff, so far Morey struck out with acquisitions Melo, MCW, Chriss and Knight. One can hope Morey can find or trade for a 3 and D player that can play both SF and PF and help Tucker and reduce his minutes. The team is thin at the PF position. Hopefully Clark's shooting improves but there are two veteran players come to mind in DeMarre Carrol (Nets) and Anthony Tolliver (Wolves). Salary might be problematic in Carrol's case. Perhaps Morey can snatch up another similar type of player. Ennis III and House have shown some potential that one can hope will lead to decent/good consistent play as we go further in the season. Hopefully CP3 is ready to go soon, but the Rockets need another guard to run the offense if Harden or CP3 are not able to play and Knight is not playing anytime soon. If Knight is returning soon and rounds out to form he was in Milwaukee that would be great. With the lack of depth forcing short rotations the Rockets are going to struggle especially in the late 3rd or in the 4th quarter when players are tired or conserving energy on the defensive end.
     
    clutchdabear likes this.
  18. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    26,367
    Likes Received:
    29,532
    Great point, but I don't think this is 100% of what he should be thinking. He should be thinking "how can I make this team at least a little more injury proof". Also, 8-4 is decent, but nowhere near last season.
     
  19. craguin

    craguin Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    1,899
    Likes Received:
    1,828
    ▲▼
     
    Deuce likes this.
  20. da_juice

    da_juice Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Messages:
    9,315
    Likes Received:
    1,070
    I honestly don't see what role players are available. One of the many downsides of the lack of parity/Warriors domination is that teams know where they stand when the season starts. As a result, bad teams don't sign role players; they sign young players. Playoff teams don't have stuff to give up. Everyone is either tanking or tryna compete. The only teams that are poachable are the Cavs and Wizards; and even then; other teams in the West are thinking the same thing.

    If the end result this year is gonna be an 8th or 9th seed; I think we need to blow it up. Winning it all with Harden is a cute idea; but it doesn't happen in this day and age. Five years ago maybe; but not in the era where all the stars are friends and ruining the game becomes a hashtag
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now