Should the US accept legal immigrants from "shithole" countries?

1) Do you believe America's mission is to help underprivileged people better their lives, or should America's mission be to grow to be a stronger country?

2) You are arguing that "trouble" does not depend on a person's wealth? I suspect data will show otherwise...

 

I agree, and while it's not fair to poor or less educated nations.....the goal isn't really to be "fair" to every nation, it's to improve and enhance this one. The migrants who are likely to be a burden to the system should be the extreme minority because there's no shortage of people wanting in. If there was, it would make sense to just accept anyone.

That's why I don't think we should prevent migration from "sh*thole countries", we should just look for the best candidates for migration and that alone will be a much more effective method of limiting undesirable migrants.....well at least for those who have a defensible opinion as to what are "undesirable migrants"

 

Your in luck Bobby because that's been happening for the past ten years.

The average immigrant that has entered the country in the past ten years has achieved higher skillsets and higher education than you. Isn't that awesome?

You must be happy to find out something you've been b****ing about for decades has been solved for quite a while now.

Maybe the next evolution of our Immigration policy is to do one for one swaps. Swap an immigrant with an engineering degree for a non degree holder such as yourself. That will certainly raise the GDP rate of increase.

 

Someone having a bias towards or against a certain race, based on the fact you view your own race superior.

SIL

 

These are tricky things because one can have implicit bias against a race but that doesn't make them a racist in the traditional sense. Usually racism is more about the treatment or espousing views or taking actions that are discriminatory. So thinking black people are the bee's knees doesn't make you a racist, but choosing to pick a black person for a job over a more qualified white person would. Donald Trump calling African countries **** holes doesn't make him a racist, just an *******. What makes him a racist is that he wants to limit people from an African country and let more people in from a white country like Norway - not on the basis of person merit, but on the presumption that people from Norway are better than people from a shithole.

 

I don't disagree. He did say El Salvador, too. Not just Haiti.

I'm still saying that if you do or don't support Trump, in some shape or form...you're racist.

I don't know anyone that is not racist. Everybody is, some more than others.

SIL

 

There are different levels

 

Just like there are different levels of ****?

 

So will the liberals impeach Trump for hurting feelings?

 

Do you understand that the if Trump mentioned these counties as 'shitholes' in passing it wouldn't be as offensive, still highly unpragamtic and stupid when it comes to future diplomacy.

The actual offensive part is NOT WANTING people from those "shithole countries".

It's a very simple premise. Shouldn't be that difficult for you to pick up.

 

No.. I think we should expand on Trump's merit based policy so we can accelerate our GDP rate of growth. I say swap an immigrant with an engineering or science degree for an non degree holder like Bobby.

I think that will definitely accelerate our GDP growth? What do you think?

 

C'mon, you know the answer to that, if they could have, they'd have done so day 1. The level of butt hurt over losing the election has led to a pathological state. It was funny at first, but now I just feel bad for those poor bastards. It was perfectly normal to be upset about Trump winning the election, but the resulting Trump Derangement Syndrome is unprecedented in modern history when it comes to the scope in which it exists.

 

1. It's always been the latter. America has done nothing but grow and a catalyst for that growth has always been immigration. Nativists have complained for decades, no, centuries. We got a bad example of one in the White House.

2. If you have a want to emigrate to America, you know best to keep a low profile. Head down, shutup, and work. Causing a ruckus won't help them stay here. Whether they're a low-key dishwasher at Mar a Lago with kids on Medicaid or a small-business owner with kids in a Catholic private school. Sure, the poor, uneducated immigrant will be more likely to get desparate and act up. They've probably been through some ****, they've seen some ****. By and large, though, and data will back me up, immigrants don't want no trouble.

 

Sounds like a good argument to all but eliminate them from the equation. We have enough of that to worry about now without importing more of it.

 

I am down with whatever policy our nation chooses but not open borders.

If that makes me a racist piece of crap then I will strive to improve.

 

I say this because of their country. If a country is poor that means their people are also are poor. It's fact. Stop denying reality.

 

Well not all of them. There are quality migrants to be had from "sh*thole countries", but probably not a ton of them. The goal should be to let in the quality migrants wherever they are from.

 

You would say that. But then who would work at Mar a Lago?

 

I'm sure they'd figure it out, and I hope you know that's not a legitimate argument.

 

Poor but not necessarily uneducated. There is a big difference. Just because they are black doesn't mean they life in the ghetto dude. In many of those countries they get a better education than you get in many parts of America.