http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/13/f...-nigas-in-paris-campaign-video/#ixzz1sgR0ZfDa Interesting choice of music.
We might be more neurotic about race here than they are, I really don't know. Based on most of the TV or movies we watch that are set over there, I think most of us fantasize about Europe as some kind of fancy suburb, so we might not understand the place well enough to gauge racial context in their media.
The racial context is very different there. They don't have the same history with slavery, Jim Crow, lynchings etc. blowing up black churches, and all of that as the U.S. There is much less sensitivity about it. For those reasons. It was
No, I think when minorities in France see the far right and a screaming radical Le Pen who wants to pretty much ban immigration, Hollande could do whatever, and still win out on that demographic. They got Muslims to vote in droves for Jean-Luc Melenchon and the Communists. I mean, really?
Well in France you can actually win on a platform of "I'm not as racist as that guy" So you can't be too shocking that stuff like this is floating around.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_slyy6pbbjw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> "Excuse my French but I’m in France (I’m just sayin’) Prince William’s ain’t do it right if you ask me Cause I was him I would have married Kate & Ashley"
France enslaved entire countries, some of them African. Here's the first link I found on google, don't know if figures are legit: http://etymonline.com/columns/frenchslavery.htm
Yes but I can't see the connection for how that makes them less sensitive. Is it only a particular type of slavery that creates this sensitivity in the long run? There's the same number of potential bigots everywhere, and history activates/deactivates them, but good/unbiased governance can very slowly steer them towards neutrality again. They just need to feel that justice is being served consistently and objectively. By the same token, bad governance can allow bigotry to fester, or worse - allow it to grow with new ideas, new words, new symbols and new institutions which can't be recognized using traditional standards. If France is less sensitive, it's probably not just because they have or haven't had a similarly horrific experience with slavery, there must be other equally important factors IMO. Maybe the laws are better. Maybe the courts are fairer. Maybe their people are more educated on these matters. List goes on and on. Anyways, it's all bad, and I shouldn't get caught up in 'who's the worst at slavery'.
A couple of things. Most of Europe at some point or another had slavery. Nobody treated their slaves as poorly, and did all the same separation, keeping them illiterate etc. as the U.S. has. In addition there wasn't all the post slavery oppression in France, as there was in the U.S. But there in France the way French treat African Americans is different than the way they've treated Northern Africans. But the history of lynchings, and oppression using terms to dehumanize and keep the minority down is different. There are certainly other factors with education legal system etc. that can also make a difference.
Historians estimate that between 10 and 18 million Africans were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken across the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara desert between 650 and 1900. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
I'm sure the figure is even higher, and in fact continues in many places. Just recently some people were arrested for it in other parts of the GCC. Furthermore, many extremist Muslims believe that any person "captured" is a shariah-compliant slave of the capturer, and can be treated as an object. Good thing Muhammad abolished slavery, and in fact married an African former slave/widow. Most of all I love that you recognize the Prophet of Islam just by his first name ATW. Thanks for playing.
Historians estimate that between 10 and 18 million Africans were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken across the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara desert between 650 and 1900.
Muhammad was not God, he couldn't make slave trade stop anymore than he could make alcohol trade stop. Who was abolishing slavery in 650 other than Muhammad? Maybe 5 or 10 people we know of? Freeing slaves? Fighting for the rights of prisoners of war? War orphans? Context buddy.
I'm not sure why this thread turned into a discussion of the slave trade. I thought this was about Hollande using *****s in Paris as a campaign song. I think y'all have gone a little too far down the rabbit hole. First thing the video had me wonder is about what channels were used to distribute. Was this shown on regular TV, or is this an internet-only video? In the French context, I would think this was a very bad campaign idea. He might gobble up a bunch of African votes, but France doesn't seem to be the place to be seen as the candidate for the minority and immigrant. Even without the music choice, I would think a video of endorsements from African Frenchmen would be a bad idea. But, I don't live there, and those guys thought about it much harder than I did.
