Steve Nash is too oldschool to force the trade

This is SO damn refreshing. I'm sick and tired of players stringing up their teams and playing trades like they're entitled to everything.

Long live Steve Nash.

 

Not surprising guys in their late 30s valuing comfortable environment and daily punch in/punch out routine, instead of re-adjusting themselves to a bunch of unknowns.

 

Go get your ring Steve!

 

Tells you how much a puss Lebron is

 

I hate to say it, but the dream teams are going to deflate the value of winning a championship. No one will think less of Nash if he doesn't get one, and signing with Miami just to chase a ring really wouldn't enhance his legacy.

 

Nash, Childress, and Frye for Pau????

 

Just a question, when Nash left the Mavs, what compensation did Mavs get for him? Don't you think Cuban would've liked a couple of picks at least for Steve? Demanding a trade >>>>>> signing somewhere else from a teams perspective.

I also don't understand the Lebron insults, he didn't demand a trade, he played out his contract and went some where of his choice, if Cleveland didn't like it, they should have done something different.

 

Why in the hell does lebron have a ring on? Lmao

 

I don't think they would have ever won a ring together. They were both closer without each other. They both needed a highly specific blend of defensive players and scorers around them to compliment and cover for their shortcommings.

Actually no, a championship is the greatest accomplishment in team sports. Everyone knows Nash is a better player than Adam Morrison but winning a championship or multiple championships is what separates the best from the best of the best. ALL of the truly elite of the elite players have won a ring. Fifty years from now kids will still be talking about Kobe because it is proven that his style of basketball, on both ends, is conducive to winning at the highest level.

I really respect Steve Nash and how he's done everything you could ask of a PG to run an offense. However, I think his coaches and GM, later in his career, have set him up for failure by completely ignoring transition defense and surrounding him with players that have no ability to protect the paint or post up in halfcourt basketball (which is impossible to avoid in the playoffs). That uptempo style allowed him to put up amazing numbers and with all those scorers on the floor it was difficult to defend.

Would he have truly been happy on a championship team putting up much more modest numbers, being a number 2 guy with a dominant post player and defensive role players and never being an MVP? I'm not so sure he wanted that. I think he spent the later part of his career pushing to win it his way. A way that's never won in this league, and never will.

 

That's simply not true. All championships are not created equal. Lebron's championship this year will be a joke.

 

That is just circular reasoning. Why are they called "truly elite"? Because they won a ring. Why did they win a ring? Because they were truly elite. The statement simply slap a definition of what truly elite is without any substantiation.

Yeah, many years from now, people might still be talking about how many rings Horry and Kerr won. But does that make them better role players than Chuck Hayes? Is Rasheed Wallace a greater player than Charles Barkley because he won a ring and Charles didn't? Is Bill Russell the greatest center of all time simply because he won more rings than anybody else? What if Hakeem got traded to a sucky team in the early '90s and never won a ring? Would he still be a "truly elite"?

There are too many factors contributing to winning a championship in a team sport, you just can't blindly use ring-counting to judge a player.

 

In certain context championships can change legacies, but in Nash's case, no it would make no difference on how people view him.

Does the ring Gary Payton won on the way out with Miami really help lift his status that much? not really, most people don't even remember him winning a ring at all. If you aren't the top 1-2 on a team while you won a ring, it doesn't really mean all that much.

 

But that is the ultimate goal of being in the NBA, NFL, etc. To win championships.

The only thing I can think of, that might be more important than winning a 'ship, is reviving a dead / almost-dead franchise, like what LeBron did for the Cavs, before he left.

 

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if you look closely you can see a ring on his left hand. IIRC lebron does not have a championship ring :grin::grin:

 

Bravo!

 

I guess you guys missed my Adam Morrisson comment. Nash is better than Morrisson, or Horry, or Kerr. Kids won't know who any of those guys are 50 years from now either. I'm not saying that a championship is some sort of barometer for how good a player is and I'm not saying a player is great because he wins a championship. I'm saying that the best of the best players of all time WILL win a championship. Other guys will win championships too but the greatest guys WILL find a way to get it done at some point in their careers.

This isn't taking anything away from Nash, he's a hall of famer. This is out of respect to the all time great players. Jordan, Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Olajuwon, etc.....they didn't just happen to win championships. They didn't just luck up and end up on great teams. They picked up their play when it mattered most and adjusted their game on both ends to win the highest reward in all of professional basketball. And, let's not act like Nash was stuck with the dregs of the league. Dirk and Amare/Marion/Joe Johnson aren't crappy teams.

I agree with this. Nash winning a ring wouldn't change anything. It's more likely he would have changed something to put himself in that position to win a ring (this is what would have elevated him to that elite group) or of course win it as a role player (but as you say, that's irrelevant).