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Michelle Bachmann Benefitting from Federal Funds

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    Except for when she is seeking to increase things like farm subsidies.
     
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    What's wrong with this? The first is sentence is the author's, not Bachmann's. The 2nd isn't untrue. Just because she takes money that's available doesn't mean she couldn't be successful without it.

    Sure they do. Progressives in the House are vehemently opposed to tax cuts for the rich and blame them for much of our current situation. They were livid that Obama extended them. Many of them are rich themselves (Pelosi, for example). Do you think they don't still take advantage of the lower tax rates since they are there? How is that any different?

    There are lots of reasons that Bachmann is crazy and unsuited for the Presidency. This isn't one of them.
     
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    Are you saying the author just made that up? Can you counter it?

    If you read the Taibbi profile of Bachmann it also brings up similar things.

    They do and I think to the extent that they present themselves as being ideologically rigorous they should be called out for it.

    This isn't about Bachmann being crazy. If anything this is the opposite and that she actually is much much more calculating than most people realize. What this is though is important to understand about someone who like it or not is among the leaders for the Republican nomination right now.
     
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    No - I think it's a statement of opinion. The crux of your argument seems to be that she's just more vocal than others about her opinions, as though it wouldn't be hypocritical if she was less-crazy when making her claims. I think that's just a matter of degree, but it doesn't really change whether she's being a hypocrite or not.

    Fair enough - that's exactly my point. If you look around, all politicians are going to have issues like this. It doesn't make Bachmann any different than all of the rest of them.

    Oh absolutely - Bachmann, like Palin, is a political genius. But she's not a leader for the GOP nomination now. She's a name that people recognize in a field where no one excites them but they are forced to pick someone. So were Fred Thompson and Donald Trump. But in the end, like them, she has zero chance of winning the nomination.
     
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    It is a statement of opinion but if you disagree do you have any information that would refute that opinion?

    True this is a matter of degrees based on the widespread hypocrisy in politics but I think this is important to understand who Michelle Bachmann is a candidate for president. Do you think such info about her, or any other candidate's, background isn't important?
    It does to the extent that the image she projects is based upon her rhetoric. As she herself said she is conservative all the way. In that case it seems to me we should examine if her actions actually fit that image.

    She is in a statistical dead heat with Romney in Iowa which as the first actual test of voters puts her among the leaders. I don't think its likely she wins the nomination but I wouldn't count her out. As Taibbi points out in her article many people have underestimated her and from seeing her political career first hand in MN I wouldn't count her out.
     
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