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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pugsly8422, Feb 25, 2011.

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  1. raleigh

    raleigh Member

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    They do not. On occasion, a team will pay a 2nd rounder a bit more (e.g., Blair, Whiteside), but the vast majority of 2nd rounders are paid the first-year minimum.
     
    #101 raleigh, Apr 8, 2011
  2. thetatomatis

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    I would like us to trade all of this years picks for the highest possible draft picks next year. I dont see much that can help us in this years draft. Our lineup has alot of players on the roster already unless some are traded away.
     
    #102 thetatomatis, Apr 8, 2011
  3. Artie_Fufkin

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    #103 Artie_Fufkin, Apr 8, 2011
  4. RockStrosTex

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    Im not too really in depth about the draft. But from looking at the board. Are we getting 3 first round draft picks??
     
    #104 RockStrosTex, Apr 9, 2011
  5. BimaThug

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    It is pretty much set as of tonight. The Rockets will have the following three picks in the 2011 NBA Draft:

    #14 (the Rockets' own pick)
    #23 (Orlando's pick via Phoenix from Aaron Brooks trade this year)
    #38 (LA Clippers' 2nd rounder - swap right from Steve Novak trade in 2008)

    So, basically, they've got a mid-first rounder, a late first rounder, and an early second rounder.
     
    #105 BimaThug, Apr 9, 2011
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  6. snowconeman22

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    If we do not make the playoffs next year and memphis does... we are looking at 3 first round draftpicks. Ours, new york's and memphis' right ?
     
    #106 snowconeman22, Apr 9, 2011
  7. tamericus

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    I think it's just ours and New York's pick. I don't think we have a first rounder from memphis.
     
    #107 tamericus, Apr 9, 2011
  8. BimaThug

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    No. The Memphis pick cannot come any sooner than 2013, since the Grizzlies cannot be without a first round pick in consecutive future drafts. Also, you are assuming (and very rightfully so) that the Knicks do not end up with a top-5 pick, in which case New York would keep its pick next year.
     
    #108 BimaThug, Apr 9, 2011
  9. DrNuegebauer

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    So we're close to getting Sacto's second rounder this year as well right? We want them to lose out and Washington or Toronto to win a game or 2 each.
     
    #109 DrNuegebauer, Apr 9, 2011
  10. desi tmac91

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    Orlando's pick could move up to #22 if Denver keeps winning I think.
     
    #110 desi tmac91, Apr 10, 2011
  11. Amel

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    will we look to trade up?
     
    #111 Amel, Apr 10, 2011
  12. BimaThug

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    Naw, that was a top-55 protected pick that was nothing more than nominal consideration. The Rockets will never see that pick.

    Only if ORL loses out and DEN wins out. Hence, "pretty much" set.
     
    #112 BimaThug, Apr 10, 2011
  13. HMMMHMM

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    I was looking at what some potential trades involving this year's draft picks could look like.

    The market was set last year when the Thunder traded their #21 + #26 picks to the Hornets for #11 + Morris Peterson ($6,665,000 expiring).

    So I looked at 'useless' expirings that fit the Battier TPE and came up with a few trades that are similar to the Thunder/Hornets deal.

    #23 + #38 for #15 + James Posey ($7,595,600 exp.)

    #14 for #11 + Charlie Bell ($4,099,920 exp.)

    #23 + Jordan Hill for #11 + Charlie Bell ($4,099,920 exp.)

    #23 for #17 + Andres Nocioni ($6,650,000 exp.)

    #23 for protected 2012 1st + Leandro Barbosa ($7,600,000 exp.)

    #23 for Clippers 2012 1st (top-10 protected until 2016) + Jermaine O'Neal ($6,226,200 exp.)

    Brad Miller for Timberwolves 2013 2nd + Jermaine O'Neal ($6,226,200 exp.)

    #38 for #27 + Jermaine O'Neal ($6,226,200 exp.)

    We might also be able to trade something like #14 + Thabeet + Hill for Varejao, but I'm not sure Varejao is that guy we really need.

    There's also some potenial with the Bobcats who own the #10, #23, #40 picks, as well as Boris Diaw ($9,000,000 exp.), but I couldn't put a deal together that I liked.
     
    #113 HMMMHMM, Apr 10, 2011
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    The pick we gave up for T-Will, wasn't that our original 2012 pick?
     
    #114 pbthunder, Apr 10, 2011
  15. pugsly8422

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    He's referring to the Memphis first round pick. Here is the breakdown from the first page:

    -Memphis Grizzlies first round pick from the Battier trade, although it is lottery protected. Thanks to RocketsPimp for this, a great breakdown....The pick, at least, will never be a high one. It is top-14 protected every year and not eligible to be used until 2013. The Minnesota Timberwolves — who own the rights to the future first round pick the Grizzles sent to the Utah Jazz last season for Ronnie Brewer — are ahead of the Rockets in line for a Grizzlies first rounder. If the Grizzlies make the playoffs this season, the Wolves will get that pick in this summer's draft. In that event, the pick being sent to the Rockets will be eligible to be used starting in 2013 (you can't trade picks in back-to-back years). If the Grizzlies miss the playoffs this season, that pushes both picks back at least a year. If the pick owed to the Rockets is not exercised by 2016, the Rockets will receive a second-round pick and $3 million.

    Basically this is saying that the Grizzlies owe a lottery protected first round pick to the Timberwolves. Since the Grizzlies will be making the playoffs this year, their pick with go to the Timberwolves. Because you can't trade first round picks in back to back years (unless you have multiple first round picks in a year), we will not get their 2012 pick unless they acquire another one (may need Bima to clarify that this is possible), so the earliest we could get it is 2013. It is also lottery protected, so we won't get it unless they make the playoffs. Here is another way to look at it:

    1) Memphis makes the playoffs & sends their 2011 pick to Minnesota (check)
    2) Memphis keeps their 2012 pick
    3a) Memphis makes the playoffs in 2013 and sends their pick to us or
    3b) Memphis misses the playoffs and keeps their pick (see 4)
    4a) Memphis makes the playoffs in 2014 and sends their pick to us or
    4b) Memphis misses the playoffs and keeps their pick (see 5)
    5a) Memphis makes the playoffs in 2015 and sends their pick to us or
    5b) Memphis misses the playoffs and keeps their pick (send 6)
    6a) Memphis makes the playoffs in 2016 and sends their pick to us or
    6b) Memphis misses the playoffs and keeps their pick, but sends us their 2nd round pick and $3m cash.

    So we want Memphis to make the playoffs in 2013, 2014, 2015 or 2016, otherwise we're stuck with the 2nd rounder and cash.

    Pugs
     
    #115 pugsly8422, Apr 10, 2011
  16. BimaThug

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    This is correct, except that I think the obligation runs until 2017, at which point it turns into a 2017 second rounder plus $3 million cash.
     
    #116 BimaThug, Apr 10, 2011
  17. coachbadlee

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    I actually like our positioning in this draft. We could come out with some good young players for the future.
     
    #117 coachbadlee, Apr 10, 2011
  18. snowconeman22

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    Thanks for the clarifacation guys. Its too bad we cant end up with memphis' as well .... 3 first round picks would be pretty awesome.. i also like our positioning for both of these upcoming drafts and feel that this offseason will really decide our future
     
    #118 snowconeman22, Apr 10, 2011
  19. b2bizchina

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    Good idea. Andres Nocioni can do sth.
     
    #119 b2bizchina, Apr 10, 2011
  20. BimaThug

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    Why? I think the LAST thing the Rockets want is another mid- to late first rounder to take up cap room with guaranteed salary. They have three picks already. The don't want a fourth unless it's another second rounder to take a foreign prospect and stash him overseas.

    Unless you could guarantee me that the extra first rounder would be enough to package to get into the top 3 picks or to get a star.

    Otherwise, . . . no, thanks.
     
    #120 BimaThug, Apr 10, 2011
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