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Birthright Citizenship

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    Why must you engage with this f**kwad?
     
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    What happens to someone going down a poor path if others refuse to engage?

    As long as it isn’t stressing you out too much, there’s nothing wrong with communication.
     
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    Slow workday so stopping by to share what I wrote on another forum yesterday.
    Birthright citizenship.

    According to the executive order ending birthright citizenship that is being argued today in the Supreme Court I am an Anchor Baby and should not have citizenship.

    When I was born my parents weren’t citizens or even had permanent residence. They were here on student visas. Those arguing against birthright citizenship have claimed that people like myself are invading the country, taking welfare and who never want to assimilate. Such claims are not new and several times in the history of this country the same have been said about those whose ancestors were Irish, Polish and Italian. No one questions now whether their families are Americans. At some point though one of them was the first born in this country and was an anchor baby for those families.


    What this case is really about is who is entitled to the American Dream. The American Dream has always been about no matter how poor and difficult one’s family background is there is still the opportunity to succeed and contribute in this country. For me that is how my father who grew up very poor in Hong Kong had the opportunity to pursue higher education in the US and his son is now an architect who has worked on projects providing jobs and housing to thousands of Americans. The argument against birthright citizenship is that the children of immigrants shouldn’t have that opportunity. The story of America shows that even those who come from the most desperate situations whether in famine ships from Galway in the 1850’s to those fleeing from war in Vietnam in the 1970’s have succeeded in America. A child born in the US now whose parents are fleeing poverty and repression from Venezuela now could also grow up to be successful if given the opportunity.


    That begins with a right to be an American. A right that is not only enshrined in the Constitution but was fought for in court by another Chinese American 128 years ago. It is the right that has made I and millions of others Americans including many of those arguing against it now.
     
    #464 rocketsjudoka, Apr 2, 2026 at 3:09 PM
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    You’re ****ing awesome, and I’m so glad you’re a fellow American. It’s a better place because you’re here.

     
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    Sorry, he gave me a softball to pontificate about myself. Who could resist?
     
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    No citation?
     
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    But you vote for all of the people that demand open borders and for seizing money from Americans to financially support every foreigner that wants to live in the U.S.
     
    #468 K9Texan, Apr 2, 2026 at 3:43 PM
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    He/she/it posts less and then possibly goes away? The forum becomes more tolerable for serious people?
     
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    So I think the Trump administrations efforts to overturn birthright citizenship should fail on constitutional grounds. That said, I’m not in principle against if it came into effect via the constitutional amendment process. There should be a straightforward path for children born in the US under those conditions to become naturalized citizens and the rules for immigrants to retain lawful residence while maintaining employment should not be excessively restrictive.

    If those conditions are in place, I’m not sure I would have strong objections to such an amendment.

    What am I missing?
     
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    Should a tourist be able to travel to the U.S. to give birth so that their child is a U.S. citizen? I don't believe that's fair to bonafide Americans, do you?
     
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    Many Americans would prefer a system that makes it easier for people from other countries to become Americans, rather than harder. So what’s “fair” in this case is very much subjective.

    Ideally, in my opinion, we make America attractive for others to want to move here and become Americans. I think that makes our country “greater”.

    Treating immigrants like garbage and not providing incentives for them to stay is not a good way to achieve that.
     
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    Are you referring to the deportation of foreigners illegally in the U.S?
     
    #476 K9Texan, Apr 2, 2026 at 5:06 PM
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    I’m referring to treating them like garbage. Deportation of foreigners, specifically, isn’t a black or white thing. It can done the right way or the wrong way.
     
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    Everyone but you? ;)
     
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    How do you recommend we deport violent illegals that prey on Americans and don't want to leave? Hell, Trump was paying them nearly $3K and a free plane ticket to go home. What else do you want to do for them?
     
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