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Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

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Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    There's three issues as I see it.

    1. His play is inconsistent as you'd expect from a player with essentially one season worth of NBA minutes. Has games where he seemingly can't hit a shot and games where he's a Curry clone.

    Also his playmaking is all over the place, some rookie mistakes, some next level brilliant plays.

    Of the issues, this one i think should solve itself over time.

    2. The Rockets have no real offensive system... because they have no real coaching at least on that side of the ball.

    3. The Rockets have terrible chemistry overall. Everyone is trying to do something different and play a different way. Also ego and personal agendas seem to be an issue with a lot of them.

    Competent coaching would help this, but I don't know if it would solve it.
     
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  2. OremLK

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    I know I've said this many times at this point, but it's still important to remember that the 2024 draft class was a weak one. There weren't really any guys who jumped off the page as "yeah, this dude is going to be a star". Even now, I'm not really convinced I see more than fringe all-star level futures from any of that draft's best performers. Sarr and Clingan look pretty good, but look more likely to be along the lines of Evan Mobley and Brook Lopez respectively if they develop well and don't plateau early. Castle looks to be more a Jrue Holiday, and even then only if the jump shot really comes along.

    In that context, Reed makes sense as a likely 6th man with a chance at becoming a fringe all-star point guard.
     
  3. Stephen_A

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    That’s why they don’t play a lot of screen and roll with him. The handles aren’t there but there’s no explosion off the ball as well. He’s not Jamal Murray and Murray isn’t even that explosive. That’s why the Rockets are very limited in their actions. He can’t play get action or consistent screen and roll and ineffective off DHO’s.
     
  4. Stephen_A

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    Yeah I don’t know what the thought process was with Sheppard. They may have thought they had a void in shooting and he would fill that role. Maybe they thought he could be a versatile combo guard that can be a lights out shooter. I don’t know what they saw.

    He was a combo guard in college and wasn’t a big playmaker pg as Dillingham played that role. He was simply a shooter and most of his assists were on kick outs after driving to the rim.

    I think they thought Castle may be redundant with JG and Amen who have shooting or consistency issues. But to me he was absolutely the best player left on that board and you have to get the best player. Sheppard doesn’t even fit the Udoka mold of tough defensive guards.

    It’s a head scratcher and if there’s one move during the Stone era that can be heavily criticized it’s this one
     
  5. Stephen_A

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    combo guard bro. He’s always been a combo since Kentucky and probably high school
     
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  6. Stephen_A

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    I think it will take several years for him to reach another couple levels and break out. Maybe year 4. There’s a lot of work to be done
     
  7. OremLK

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    I don't think it's at all guaranteed that Castle will have a better career than Sheppard at this point, but I do know that having yet another guy you don't have to guard at the 3P line would have made this team's offensive struggles even worse. Castle probably struggles to break 20mpg on this team due to the spacing problems, and also doesn't perform as well with us as he is in San Antonio (both due to our crappy coaching and due to our roster construction). The situation you draft a prospect into really makes a big difference.
     
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  8. daywalker02

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    Castle is Amen lite with tighter handles and more rugged....he is going to shine regardless but yeah he won't win as much here than with Wemby.....

    Amen has done it, he would be doing it as well.

    But he is going to put up individual numbers.
     
  9. OremLK

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    Aside from Castle being a somewhat better jump shooter (but still a bad one), Amen is better at virtually everything than Castle, IMO. Castle may be slightly better in terms of his handles and passing, but Amen is much more athletic, longer, better rebounder, better at steals/blocks, better at getting to the rim and better at finishing when he gets there, at least as good as an on-ball defender. Pretty sure 30 out of 30 front offices would take Amen right now if they had to choose between the two.
     
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    Amen is still a wing hybrid that can pass well and Castle passes as sort of PG......

    that distinction alone is pretty important to teams that have no PG to run the whole show......

    By the time u realize that Amen is a better rebounder and thief, the other team has already drafted a rebounder and a Stock specialist at the Wing and elbow.


     
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    I think the opposite. Reed is too timid to be a floor general at this point. FVV is more like a floor general (not elite). Reed has very good court vision. He sees the floor and the movement of players very well and often make the right read. I wouldn't predict that he will reach the level of Nash/Magic/Kidd/Jokic. But he has that kind of instinct.
     
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    I can accept labeling him combo guard. You can call guys like Harden and SGA combo guards too.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    You can label anyone a combo guard, it'll just be inaccurate a lot.

    Reed doesn't have the game of a SG at all. He's a traditional PG who is also capable of shooting the ball.... that doesn't make him a combo guard.
     
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    Yeah I don’t see it at all personally. Those guys have that quality at 14-15 years old. No one has to teach it to them. I’ve never seen anyone being taught that.

    Floor ‘generalship’ can and must be taught though.
     
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    The game before last he had a bad shooting game but was making good reads and aggressive in taking his shots

    obviously turned out to be a bad game for him and then looked like teammates were yelling and Ime pulled him at try smallest mistake next game.

    to be honest, Sheppard has to grow a pair and want it. He has to take control and tell people to stfu, the plays too diplomatic and people pleasing. Can’t succeed as an nba player like that

    that being said, it doesn’t surprise me why this team can’t develop anybody
     
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    I don’t know how he can be heavily criticized for taking a guy that can shoot over guys that can’t or that were redundant to what at the time we believed was our franchise big guy. It was a weak draft and they probably had 3-4 guys rated about the same and took the one they thought fit their needs the best, since we lacked outside shooting. They reportedly tried to trade out of the draft, which I and quite a few others were advocating, but had no takers.Stone’s made plenty of mistakes, but this one is hard to be overly critical about in my opinion. Nobody thought that it was a strong draft even if they had the no. 1 pick.
     
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    Reed averaged 4.5asts in college compared to Dillinghams 3.9asts, despite having less usage than Dillingham.

    What is your reasoning for discrediting drive and kick assists as well? Probing the defense and getting to the second level of it is important for a pg.
     
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    Honestly, I think the storyline of Sheppard being "held back" and "incorrectly handled" is losing steam. Not every NBA team will have the perfect environment for development. Some of it just has to come from the player
     
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    There are a lot of things to criticize Stone for and I'm definitely one to point them out - but this is not one of them. It was a historically weak draft and while I personally had Castle higher on my board, it was close enough between him and Reed that I didn't mind that Reed was picked since he made more sense contextually for our roster. Castle seemed redundant to Amen and Tari in terms of nearly position-less defenders with poor shooting.

    Also worth noting Castle is succeeding in a FAR better context playing next to a 22yr old alien playing at an MVP level already. If we had a big who could dominate the paint and stretch defenses out to the 3pt line - it would CERTAINLY have positive impacts to everyone on the roster - especially Reed. Reed's game is totally different if he just needs to swipe at the ball and otherwise funnel defenders towards a 7'4" HOF level defender. Unfortunately we don't have that luxury offensively or defensively from our big.
     
  20. LosPollosHermanos

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    You're 100% correct. The last games while starting he has done well in about 50% of them looking like nash, the other half like jeremy lin

    its on him to know to be aggressive.
     

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