1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    13,796
    Likes Received:
    18,032
    You are right, it’s not impossible. 2 teams in the 21st century have team defenses not in the top ten. Denver at 15th the year they won and GSW was 11th one year that they won. I think they will run it back with a tweak or two, but no major trade. Most of the trade scenarios I put out, are for entertainment purposes and to illustrate how I think this team should be built after the inevitable disappointment of this year and next or in response to others making suggestions. I think those discussions are more fun than just the same old arguments that are being regurgitated endlessly.
     
  2. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    59,851
    Likes Received:
    71,840
  3. LosPollosHermanos

    LosPollosHermanos Clutch Crew
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2009
    Messages:
    34,862
    Likes Received:
    20,310
    His help defense is main issue, he is not a rim protector . Period.
     
    gunawanspurs and Hakeemtheking like this.
  4. Dr of Dunk

    Dr of Dunk Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 1999
    Messages:
    47,237
    Likes Received:
    34,616
    I'm not sure how accurate defensive stats are (they usually aren't), but showing one game's results as proof that what people have been saying is an issue of his for an entire season is probably not the way to go. His DFG% is the worst on the team this season, and post-ASB it's a lot worse than pre-ASB.

    That being said, like I said, I'm not sure how accurate DFG% is at measuring what we think it's measuring.
     
    LosPollosHermanos likes this.
  5. ksny15

    ksny15 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    15,507
    Likes Received:
    8,421
    You will not be a championship team if you roll Sengun and Reed out there. Use your eyes and you can see that. One of the two will absolutely have to go.
     
    gunawanspurs likes this.
  6. Downtown Sniper

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    10,586
    Likes Received:
    14,472
    I always knew a large portion of people on Clutchfans had no idea what they even watch defensively.

    The fact they're back to the 'Sengun can't play defense' spiel literally a season right after every. single. defensive. metric. said he was far far better than he was bad at defense.

    What changed?

    The people defending around him.

    The perimeter has gone back to swiss cheese almost as if it's the zero IQ backcourt of Jalen and KPJ once more.

    And here we are back again with the same moronic idiots who wouldn't know how to view defense if it slapped them across the face, are saying Sengun is horrid at defense again because he not only can't stay attached to his man whilst at the same time defending the wide open guard who's strolled past the perimeter defense and then also can't box out three players at once.

    The only player in the NBA held to these standards hahaha.

    It's hilarious.
     
  7. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    59,851
    Likes Received:
    71,840
  8. RHU525

    RHU525 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2002
    Messages:
    6,210
    Likes Received:
    8,800
    Crazy statement considering how young they both are. Reed is only going to get stronger which will only improve his defense significantly. And when he makes shots it doesn’t matter how bad his defense is. 3>2
     
  9. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    59,851
    Likes Received:
    71,840
  10. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    59,851
    Likes Received:
    71,840
  11. clos4life

    clos4life Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    13,956
    Likes Received:
    18,906
    Imagine if he actually had shooters that could make 3s when they get the pass, instead of Jalen, DFS, and the like.
     
  12. hakeemthagreat

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2014
    Messages:
    6,556
    Likes Received:
    4,547
    Yeah hes a joke on defense. He dunked on someone last night, beat his chest then got dunked on by the same guy the next play down. Thats Alperen Sengun in a nutshell
     
  13. Downtown Sniper

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    10,586
    Likes Received:
    14,472
    "WHY DOES ALPEREN NOT PASS TO REED"
    "ALPEREN IS A BLACK HOLE"

    Some of the hilarious things said recently.
     
  14. clos4life

    clos4life Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    13,956
    Likes Received:
    18,906
    [​IMG]
     
    alef666, KUNTEPER_S and clutchdabear like this.
  15. Dobbizzle

    Dobbizzle Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2021
    Messages:
    8,824
    Likes Received:
    12,721
    If Jalen had actually got consistent and his flashes became the norm, Alpi's numbers would've benefited in more than just the assist totals I think. Teams wouldn't have been able to load up on him as much at all. It really does suck that Jalen was the one who failed to live up to the pick the most, because if he had hit we'd probably have been legit contenders.
     
    harold bingo, alef666 and clos4life like this.
  16. clos4life

    clos4life Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    13,956
    Likes Received:
    18,906
    We all wished Jalen could have lived up to his billing. I wish him the best, but he really set the Rockets back.
     
    harold bingo and Dobbizzle like this.
  17. TimDuncanDonaut

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    16,922
    Likes Received:
    41,399
  18. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    33,051
    Likes Received:
    52,120
    It's game like this that make you think, maybe ATW shouldn't be banned.


    This was an ELITE defensive game played by Sengun, he wasn't ok, or passable, or good. He was elite all night.


    EDIT, unfortunately lapsing in the last 3 minutes of OT. The ban stays.
     
    #23658 ThatBoyNick, Mar 25, 2026 at 11:20 PM
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2026 at 11:29 PM
    tagedieb, alef666, KUNTEPER_S and 2 others like this.
  19. nickb492

    nickb492 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    3,175
    Likes Received:
    2,172
    Sengun is God.
     
    KUNTEPER_S likes this.
  20. Roomba

    Roomba Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2017
    Messages:
    5,423
    Likes Received:
    18,741
    I was legit almost getting emotional at Alpi giving up his body and taking over the game on both ends.

    I understand that this level of defense is not always sustainable, but when he gets it going, there is nobody I'd rather have
     
    Ardeus, alef666, clos4life and 3 others like this.

Share This Page