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[War] Trump declares war on Iran for regime change

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  1. adoo

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    you know the Iran invasion is not goin well, as Trump 2.0 just keep on TACOing
     
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  2. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    1. Iran not really messing with us. (Mess with Israel, a little, via proxies).
    2. Israel somehow convinces Trump we must join them in a war against Iran.
    3. We kill a bunch of leaders and about (estimated) 1000 citizens, including about 200 or more kids.
    4. Iran becomes more hardline.
    5. Iran acts to interrupt global oil distribution.
    6. Prices of oil go up, stock markets retreat dramatically.
    7. [US scratching head]
    8. We ease oil sanctions on Iran.
    9. Iran learns what? ... 3D chess, that's what! USA! USA!
     
  3. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Damn you liberals are dumb. Making my head hurts!
     
  4. mtbrays

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    That they really need a nuclear weapon.
     
  5. Amiga

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    Trump Had No Plan B for Iran - The Atlantic
    And it shows.

    By Tom Nichols
    March 20, 2026, 6:30 AM ET


    Three weeks into Donald Trump’s war against Iran, the president has still refused to define victory other than to say the war will soon be over. From the moment he launched hostilities, he offered many rationales for the war, choosing among them like he’s picking hors d’oeuvres from a buffet at one of his golf resorts: It’s about nuclear weapons, it’s about terrorism, it’s about ballistic missiles. As the media, and the world, press him for explanations, he continues, as Pegah Banihashemi and Paul Poast wrote in The Atlantic on Wednesday, to “careen” between demanding “unconditional surrender” from Tehran and signaling “that he might abruptly declare victory and leave.”

    But Trump did seem to have an overarching goal at the start of the war: regime change. In a video he released during the first night of the attack, he told the Iranian authorities to surrender and called on the Iranian people to rise up against their government. Unfortunately, the regime in Tehran seems to be recovering and, even worse, consolidating power. The American intelligence community has reportedly issued an assessment that the regime “will remain intact and possibly even emboldened, believing it stood up to Trump and survived.” Trump now appears lost, unable to comprehend how a blockbuster movie that he scripted out, one in which he cast himself as the Liberator of Iran, has turned into a poorly received miniseries that might yet be renewed for another dreary season.

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    Trump’s Plan A was to hit Iran hard, watch the theocrats flee, and then hand power to a government of his own choosing. Should such things not come to pass, Plan B was … well, apparently, there was no Plan B.

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    Instead, the Iranian government lashed out at several countries in the region, widening the war both to sow chaos and to emphasize the danger of working with the reckless Trump administration. And in a completely predictable move, it has closed the Strait of Hormuz. Or, more accurately, it has exercised its control over the strait, allowing some ships, including its own, safe passage while counting on fear and uncertainty among ship captains and the world’s insurers to choke the flow of oil to the rest of the world and perhaps create an oil shock in the West of a kind unseen since the 1970s.

    Some observers have criticized American planners for failing to anticipate such a move. This is unfair: The intelligence community and the U.S. military have analyzed, planned, and exercised for this scenario for decades. The failure came not from the national-security community, but from the civilians, and specifically the commander in chief, who evidently refused to heed warnings from his senior military advisers that the Iranians would do exactly what anyone paying attention suspected they would do.

    This arrogance is likely why Trump began the war by haughtily dismissing the need for allies; he is now whining that America’s allies should help open the strait while paradoxically claiming that he doesn’t need their help. Things have gotten so far out of Trump’s control that the president of the United States has even suggested that the People’s Republic of China—the same China that his top aides think is America’s greatest threat—should become involved in the Gulf.

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    The new ayatollah and his lieutenants are likely betting that Trump’s infamously short attention span and his frustration with anything that doesn’t instantly go his way will lead him to use some arbitrary metric of destruction, call it victory, and get out.

    Whatever Trump chooses to do from here, the American president is now being driven by events instead of controlling them. Like a gambler chasing his losses, he keeps investing new money to stay at the table. Worse, Trump faces far more risk today than he did during his first throw of the dice: If he quits anytime soon, he will affirm that the Iranian control of oil is an even more effective shield against regime change than any putative nuclear program.

    Trump has said that the war will not last long. The Iranians have been severely weakened, and their nuclear program is, for the time being, almost nonexistent. For the president, that may be enough to declare a win and let the world’s markets (and nerves) settle back down. But if the regime survives, and Tehran keeps its fist around the throat of the global economy, Trump’s Plan A will have failed. And without a Plan B, the temptation to escalate will grow as Trump tries to spackle over the gap left by his own unwillingness to engage in judicious strategic thinking when it counted most: before the war.
     
  6. durvasa

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    Sadly, on the world stage, we are at a low point right now. That’s not coming from our enemies, but from our allies.

    And it’s not much better at home.

    American pride requires a clear idea of what are American values. Freedom, democracy, fairness, human rights, generosity, respect for the sovereignty of a people against oppression. When we uphold those values and defend against people who wish to undermine those values, I am very proud.
     
  7. TheRealist137

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    So end of day Trump will have accomplished nothing, wasted billions of taxpayer dollars, got americans killed, got iranians killed, and ruined our relationship with allies.

    F- grade for Mr. Trump
     
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  8. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Yeah, it's an elected, elective, wholly-avoidable branding nightmare for the USA. on what should be an amazing 250th year celebration. No consistency, no message, just a guy banking that everyone will like him as an aging spokesperson who makes pitches and ads without a script or legit advice.

    Trump steaks are the best steaks, (available only at the Sharper Image, TM).

    Trump country is the best country. You will love him, do what he wants, or he will tariff you, or abduct you, or his bombs will curb stomp you (available only via the world's largest military budget, TM). New signature line: "You're fire(bomb)ed!"
     
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  9. Rocket River

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    Let's be honest . . . . The world has learned that . . .the WORD . .the DEAL . . .the CONTRACT
    with America means nothing and will start acting accordingly
    I suspect that Trump may end up signing some bad bad bad deals
    that will only blow up when he is dead and gone
    in the middle of the time others [democrats] are cleaning up the mess
    then the republicans will try to escape blame

    \
    Any Babylon 5 Watchers? . . . . . .America is the Centauri Republic . . .
    Rocket River
     
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  10. TheRealist137

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    That said, the only way I support this war is if there is a Draft, and then only the idiots that voted for him get drafted. Get those dumbasses out of here and go support your president.
     
  11. adoo

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    #2371 adoo, Mar 20, 2026 at 1:43 PM
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  12. rimrocker

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    Our President is a roiling mess of Cluster B personality disorders with a heavy dose of narcissism and daddy issues.

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    Of course a guy like this can't think beyond the immediate. Hell, he can't even bother to read intelligence briefings. Right now, the Strait is in the news and people are talking about it all the time. So, we must deal with the Strait. Do we do it by taking Kharg or putting troops on the ground around the Strait? Yes! When that happens, people won't talk about the Strait. But we aren't thinking about the consequences of taking actions on the Strait. When our decisions inevitably lead to some other crisis point that people are talking about, that will become the focus. And so on. And so on. Escalation becomes the only option in this spiral. One more surge should take Iran out of the news, right? Then, people can get back to glorifying me!

    TLDR: We're screwed.
     
  13. Agent94

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    Trump didn't accomplish nothing, he made things worse. We had a nuclear deal which will never be on the table again. We likely lost control of the strait for the foreseeable future.
     
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  14. The Captain

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    These folks are always the most fun to party with. Have as president, not so much.
     
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    #2375 astros123, Mar 20, 2026 at 2:11 PM
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  16. TheRealist137

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    Oh that's right I have Trump too much credit somehow. Enjoy your high gas prices MAGAorons.
     
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  17. Reeko

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    yup

    only ones who should be down there bobbing and weaving bullets and dodging missiles are the MAGAts and every single ICE agent
     
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  18. The Captain

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    There's an overlap if the draft prioritizes men who aren't in college and deferment of those in college as with previous drafts, so it would inadvertently target a portion of the MAGA demo.

    That said, with the GOP assault on education, all bets are off. They don't need educated people thinking about things. Stay in your lane, plebs, vote straight R while we continue to siphon off what little excess money you have.
     
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    “We don’t use the Strait. We don’t need it.” --President Donald J. Trump
     
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    Grandpa Pudding Brain doubles down on The Stupid.


    TEL AVIV/DUBAI/WASHINGTON, March 20 (Reuters) - The U.S. military is deploying a large amphibious assault ship with thousands of additional Marines and sailors to the Middle East, three U.S. officials told Reuters on Friday, as Iran's new supreme leader hailed Iran's "unity" and "resistance".
     

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