What will it take to make you seriously consider an EV?

For any fellow Tesla drivers...God help you if you ever have a collision.

I got hit on the freeway, they had insurance and their provider accepted liability. No issues.

The Tesla Collision Center is adamant that no matter what I will be highly likely to pay thousands out of pocket directly to them, because they habitually charge more than what insurance companies will pay for repairs. They will grab more from the owner every time, and they will hold your car hostage in the meantime. When you are in the lobby, you hear countless phone calls from customers that are getting sandbagged by this, the only reason I found out before they dissembled the thing (where they would really have me by the balls) is because my lawyer went over there to see the damage. Did not see even one Tesla getting worked on over there, it was more of a purgatory for damaged cars.

Absolute nightmare of an experience with no end in sight.

 

You're really selling it.

• (Has become) car brand for douchebags
• Need lawyer to repair
• Supports world's richest villain
• Profit???

 

Hate to tell you, but this is the result of Tesla's Giga Casting method of manufacturing their cars. Basically makes their cars disposable if there's any type of frame damage because they can't just remove a subsection and bolt on a replacement part. I also assume that there also isn't really replacement parts available because they can't predict what sections to repair because it's all molded as a single piece. So even if they are being honest with repairs, it'd make every repair like custom building part of a car from scratch, having the expertise to do that, and do it well enough that an insurance company would want to insure after

Tesla's method totally saves them money in manufacturing, but screws the buyers if anything ever happens to the car.

 

Why is a person a douchebag for the vehicle they drive? Unless you're one of those people who modify the exhaust or excessively lift a vehicle making it difficult for other drivers to see?

 

You're absolutely right. Tesla centers suck, not that they are the only ones who are subjected to this problem. Fortunately for me, the regional manager for my area is related to my coworker.

There is a high chance any structural damage to your vehicle will total it.

Shouldn't the insurance company be required to pay out the full amount up to the value of the vehicle? And if they haven't repaired the vehicle, how are they holding it hostage?

 

I was so close in buying a juniper but the high insurance cost for me is a no.

 

That's where the depreciated value of Teslas comes in vs the repair cost which might not be easily estimated for what becomes a custom job. I imagine everything becomes a fight between the repair center and the insurance company. This would explain why a repair center would try and force a customer to pay extra.

So I can easily see cars just stuck at the repair shop waiting for paperwork to clear and then also figuring out what parts are needed and how to do the repair.

 

At this point, it feels like buying a Tesla is the same as buying property in a flood plain.

There should be supplemental insurance so it's not jacking up the price for everyone else.

 

I pay very little relatively using Tesla Insurance. If you have a Tesla, use Tesla Insurance.

 

This exact situation was predicted many years ago. Sorry you're going through it.

 

What does gigacasting have to do with repairing a door, panel or fender?

 

It's very weird...
Insurance Adjuster - yes this is covered, we will pay for the repairs
Tesla Collision - yeah, they're saying that, but we guarantee when the final costs come in they won't pay all of it, that's why we need confirmation from you that you will pay the difference
Me - well can't we sort that out on the front end and see if there will even be a discrepancy?
Tesla Collision - There will be a discrepancy
Me - How much?
Tesla Collision - We don't know and we won't know until we start repairs, but at that point you will be on the hook for any difference.
Me - well s*** wtf do I even do (car sits in Tesla Collision parking lot purgatory with 100 other cars not being worked on)

 

So basically they are trying to force you to have to settle with the insurance company on the extra uncovered costs and have you potentially pay for a lawyer to claw back that money from the insurance company.

 

Bingo...and if you don't want to pay now and try to claw back your money later, you will spend weeks going back and forth between the insurance and Tesla Collision before they even start work on the car.

Never have I heard of a situation where a body shop fixing a covered claim warns the owner they WILL be coming out of pocket.

 

I'm not sure either. Why are you asking?

 

How do you know SuraGotMadHops' problem is due to gigacasting?

 

How much and what model do you have?

 

I'm making an educated guess, but if a repair shop is saying that repair costs are consistently more than what an insurance company is willing to sign off on, and this is common for Tesla's, I'm going to attribute it to the complexity of repairing the giga casted frame.

Replacing a bumper should be an easily estimated cost

 

Is there any evidence for your grand assumption?

 

I drive a 2018 Infiniti Q60 and you’re gonna have to pry it from my cold dead hands. I live close to my office so it only has around 70k miles..also Infiniti doesn’t make a coupe anymore. …I’m old