Blow it up this offseason?

I’m curious what fans would prefer:

A. Spend assets this summer to supplement this group; say, trade Sengun + Reed + FRPs for Giannis. Make the playoffs for the next few years, and win a few playoff series here and there, but never get on the level of OKC/SAS. Then rebuild from scratch with no extra assets, starting in 2029.

B. Trade KD and Sengun this summer for picks and expirings, including a mid FRP in the ‘26 draft. Let Tari walk. Soft reset immediately with Amen/Jabari/Reed + Adams/FVV as vets + lots of extra picks + $100M in cap space in 2027. No bottoming out, but continue searching for a young franchise player via draft and development.

 

It’s clear Sengun isnt a championship player. Sheppard clearly not ready. I would keep Thompson and trade the other 2 if the Rockets still want to keep KD.

If they do

Yes. Get stars in here. Trade one or a combo of Sengun, sheppard, Thompson or all 3 if they want to pair KD with another star.

If not and they want to start anew then they at the minimum need to ship Sengun out along with KD and get stars or quality players plus picks in here

 

Don’t disagree with your point (actually agree with your first paragraph), but just have to point out: the Spurs are not good without Wemby.

They have the net rating of a 41-41 team in their minutes without Wemby on the court this season. And that’s the best it’s ever been. They are very much Wemby merchants.

 

They have actually been blessed with no big injuries to their guards....other than Devin Vassall since December.

And at the same time benefitted from big injuries to the Thunder and Denver.

 

The numbers are the numbers. When Wemby is off the floor the spurs have a 117 Ortg and 117 Drtg. You can check Cleaningtheglass if you want. That’s across their whole season sample, 3400 possessions (it’s actually more than half of their total possessions this season, bc Wemby doesn’t play that many minutes). This is a far bigger/more representative sample than just games Wemby was totally out injured for.

When Wemby is on the floor over the whole season sample they have an insane +16 net rating. 121 Ortg and 105 Drtg (lol). That’s the equivalent of a 72-10 team.

Wemby is just absurd. Put him on any non tanking team in the league and they’ll win 60 games and be a heavy title contender. The rest of the Spurs are not better than the Rockets or any number of other young teams. It’s Wemby.

 

The spurs use analytics. They had Wemby coming off the bench because it was better. Ime and Stone are living in the dark ages.

 

The Rockets were never able to out-maneuver the Spurs.....the Spurs could do so much more with less talent.....imagine if they had Thompson, Sengün and Reed.

This is just from top to bottom great perfectly oiled machine, same as OKC, same as Boston.

 

Na, we aren't quite there yet. We have all of our young players and draft capital. We don't need to blow it up.

We can swing for the fences. Get some good pieces in and keep working.

OH, and also hope to GOD we stay healthy.

 

Dallas is still years away, they currently have the 5th worst record in the league

Minnesota really isn't any better than the Rockets, at least in regular season. Which is the point, the playoffs can be different

The past 7 finals had the low seed Pacers, Miami Heat twice make the finals. Then the Raptors actually won it with Kawhi basically being the "Durant" hired gun leading a bunch of good not great players.

Don't need to blow it all up already

 

Dallas knew how to tank, they had one season under Luka when they got the 11th pick one year and then went to the Finals the next year.......

You cannot really trust the Mavs, they kept Kyrie out who could have returned, and lost countless times and then handed the Rockets a heartbreaking loss with AD on Amen I believe.....

Dallas is fairly attractive destination, they can get any All Stars after LA, NY, GSW, Heat, Boston etc.

 

Fred VanVleet has a Player Option and a No Trade Clause. How can you trade for James Harden?

 

It wouldn’t matter with our coach. Stephon castle wouldn’t have turned out how he has if he was drafted by Houston playing under Ime. Wemby wouldn’t be Wemby in Houston

 

I don’t think we gotta blow it up but I am telling you boys we gotta go get Dejounte Murray. Probably most realistic tradable starting PG since they have Fears. Needs a pg who can put 20pts any given night. He’s avg. like 20/6 since his return. FVV + PHX 27’. Maybe see if Harden is possible. Reed can come off the bench another year until he’s at least a reliable 6th man

I really don’t think we will be much better with FVV. Maybe a couple more Ws in regular season but he ain’t carrying us in playoffs. I’ll be disappointed if the front office just sits on their hands for Fred’s return

I am not saying trade Sengun but I would feel what trades are out there. Try to get a stretch 5. Trade Tari

 

1. Trade KD to a team stupid enough to take him.
2. Fire Ime's ass
3. Keep one of Amen and Alpi. Trade the other one for picks.
4. Keep Reed and Bari.
5. Draft players and hope you find a franchise player.

This is the way I see to get out of the current mess. The rebuild is still not guaranteed to be a failure. The Rockets have space to move and fix things.

 

Why are y'all keeping a 55 year old Stone.......keep Felicia, out with Stone.

 

I still have faith in Stone. I think he is a smart guy. Not getting a pg after Fred's injury and trusting Ime's vision a bit too much were blunders but he has the potential to see his mistakes and act accordingly. Hopefully he will.

 

I would rather try to get Murphy from the Pels honestly. Not sure if they'd entertain trading him, but he's a perfect match for FVV's salary and would allow us to get rid of KD without a huge dropoff offensively. (We might actually get a bit better on that end because Murphy takes a lot more three pointers and plays faster.) A lot of different ways to get it done. KD to somebody for picks and bad money would be my preferred trade, then picks and FVV to the Pels for Murphy.

As far as point guard play goes, I think I'm okay enough with what I've seen from Reed and Amen to keep developing them as a backcourt for now. It's going to be shaky for awhile but I don't see us as contending for anything next season regardless.

 

I was vocal about moving KD at the deadline to recoup assets. I then would have moved Sengun in the off-season after "featuring him" the back half of the year while moving towards full development of Reed Sheppard & Amen Thompson.

But instead we got the Dickerson fiasco...