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Ramadan War: From domestic Iranian Protests to US and Israel Bombing Iranians

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Dec 29, 2025.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    On the ropes?

    The Iranian govt is more popular with the Iranian people and has been than Trump is in America. They may not have all the love in the world but they know who overthrew their democratically elected govt and has constantly been undermining them.

    if you’re buying the “30K dead” line think for a second about how this was strategically planted just several months before all this without a single piece of evidence for some of the claimed largest execution in a 2 day span.

    They are highly educated and religious people that are at the center of Shiite Islam. They rally around their pope and own people. Bombing them into obscurity like Trump is will he studied as ne of the largest foreign policy disasters of all time.
     
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    no one wants to see Iran destroyed.

    Many people would like to see the Iranian-regime destroyed, and the end of state-sponsored terrorism.
     
  3. Ubiquitin

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    You’re illiterate if that was your takeaway.

    The Iranian people are facing real economic woes. The protests in response were real too. But they were co-opted by the Israelis and the US to trigger a color revolution which is why they failed. Instead of a continuation of the protests for Mahsa Amini but with broad support including the conservative business class, the Israelis got involved. Without foreign coopting, the Iranian government would’ve lost the last 10% of critical support (only 20% of the people support the government which is no better than the US). But with foreign coopting, the Iranian government is able to legitimately crack down the protests and as a result kill the embedded Mossad agents who would’ve been key to hamstringing Iranian military operations. Israeli hubris will be their downfall. And with Israel and the US attacking, the Iranian people appropriately rally around their leaders.

    I stand by the official number killed in the crackdowns, not the ever inflating number by the insane diaspora. When this conflict is over, Iran needs to reform itself no matter how it ends. Assuming there is still a Middle East when it ends.
     
  4. LosPollosHermanos

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    Listen man, its cool and all reading articles online and being a keyboard warrior...but maybe step away and think for a second about the fact that you are at the most dealing with this coming from a distant and biased source. You stand by official numbers? Pray tell me why you are willing to stand by this in such an ironclad way. This is what I was highlighting, you an outsider who at the most deal with people whose parents neighbors plumber once lived in iran proclaim to (or an article relating to it) know how the entire populace in a theocratic country with numbers riding on the edge of "10%" etc. Its arrogant and stupid. You have no idea and can't ever proclaim to claim that the majority of iranians were turning on their govt.

    The second you come at people with "iRanIan DiAsPOra" you sound legitimately redarded. Theres something called selection bias that is the cornerstone of research and statistics. Look it up.

    edit: I didn't mean to come off so harsh, but this arrogance all just underscores the mentality and approach to foreign policy that is getting people killed. We don't understand the populace, but in our mind we've broken the culture and people down to a formula. Its wishful thinking at best. We need to leave the ME alone
     
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    The official number from the Iranian government is 3,117. That’s a huge amount of people. But it’s also no where near the 80,000 claimed.

    I work with more educated Iranians who have left Iran in the last 20 years than any other minority group.

    The Iranian diaspora are rabid in their dislike of the government, in part because they did not come here for economic opportunities as much as they fled Iran.
    Similar to Cubans in Florida.
     
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    I edited my post, we agree on this.
     
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    We in the US do not. irans neighbors who pushed us into this conflict would lose no sleep if we destroyed Iran.
     
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    I have yet to meet one Iranian in America that is against this war. They hate the regime with a passion and have felt stuck forever. Iranian govt is a terrorist organization that funds all the **** going on around the world. You are forced to follow the religion they want in Iran. They will execute you in the middle of the streets in front of ppl, that’s what they do weekly. Hang you and have ppl watch.
     
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    There are lots of terrible governments in the world. It doesn't mean we start bombing them unilaterally.
     
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    Most Iranian Americans want diplomacy with Iran: poll | Responsible Statecraft
    Mar 12, 2026

    Recent data released by the National Iranian American Council (NIAC) suggests that a strong majority of Iranian Americans support diplomacy to resolve tensions between the U.S. and Iran — a finding at odds with the dominant conversation online suggesting that most Iranian Americans are in favor of the Iran war.

    The data was collected through a survey of 505 Iranian Americans conducted by Zogby Analytics between Feb. 27 and March 5. Among the most notable results were that a clear majority of Iranian Americans — 61.6% — support diplomacy to move toward de-escalation and a negotiated path forward.

    “If anything, a lot of people were surprised because they thought Iranian Americans overwhelmingly favored this war,” NIAC president Jamal Abdi said in a Wednesday press briefing. “In fact, it is divided in half. There was really no mandate for the war.”

    As Abdi noted, the survey results show that Iranian Americans were nearly evenly divided on whether the U.S. should have initiated war with Iran, with 49.3% opposing the attacks and 48.9% supporting them.

    Those who oppose the war are primarily concerned with harm inflicted on innocent civilians and the potential for further destabilization of the country, while those in support hope the war will make regime change more likely and reduce threats imposed by Iran’s nuclear program, according to the poll.
     
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    It's called colonization. islamic colonization. The left has so deeply brainwashed people into thinking only white people colonized other lands, they tiptoe around the brutality of how islam operates by using words such as "expansion" because non-white people can't be painted in a bad light.

    it's all optics for the sheep.
     
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    Unless Israel is destroyed, shredded, then burned ,there won't be peace on this planet
     
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    The majority of global conflicts involve Muslims and not Israel.

    UCDP - Uppsala Conflict Data Program

    This current war only exists because genocidal group Hamas started it.

    Israel is a scapegoat for your ideology's inability to live peacefully along others without trying to subjugate them, wherever you go in the world. And I say this as someone who did not want to get involved with Iran.
     
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    a clown who thinks Trump’s tarrif will pull him out of poverty isn't the best candidate to have an opinion on anything serious.

    The entire World, is taken hostage for Epstein-Israel blackmail dirty affairs
     
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    Keep selling yourself and your suiicide bomber buddies that fantasy to justify your hatred.

    You created all your own problems.
     
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    Sure , enjoy your infant meat jerky and the children pizza
     
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    Imperialism, colonization, expansion, whatever you want to call it.

    It was expansion with large swath assimilation of Semitic peoples, except for the Iranians who are not Semitic and were able to hold onto their pre-Islamic identities. But the Iraqis, Egyptians, Syrians, and Levantine peoples became Arabized rather than replaced by Arabs from Hejaz. The Islamic expansion was not to benefit the Arabs in Arabia like the rest of the world’s Imperial projects, but to rule the Middle East from within the Middle East. It’s why their caliphate capitals were Damascus, Cairo, and Baghdad and not Mecca and Medina.

    But then the Safavids turned it upside down when they force converted the Iranian people’s to their form of Sunni then Shia Islam and restored the Iranian nation state from Mongol controlled states. Twelver Shia Islam is inherently Iranian now. From the Safavids, Qajars, Pahlavi, and now to the Ayatollahs, the Iranian people practice their own form of Islam unlike the rest of the Arab world.

    In the words of the Arabs, the Iranians are Ajami (mutes) and can never rule over an Arab.
     
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