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Solving Illegal Immigration

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    How many said. . . it would be better with a DataCenter put there?

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    The Trump administration moved to cancel the temporary legal status (parole) of migrants who had entered the U.S. legally through the CBP One app. Although a federal court initially blocked the mass cancellation, the Supreme Court later allowed the policy to proceed while the case continues. This family is one example of people detained during that process.

    This illustrates, once again, that “legality” is often used as a justification for mass deportation - even targeting people who entered the U.S. legally and are living much like any of your neighbors. For those who keep insisting that enforcement only targets “illegal” immigrants, this reality shows otherwise.

    This family is lucky because its members are well known in the community, but there are many other families who entered legally through the CBP One app and are now detained while waiting for deportation.


    Two teen brothers Joshua, Antonio Gámez-Cuéllar, in McAllen, Texas mariachi band released from ICE custody - ABC13 Houston

    RAYMONDVILLE, Texas -- A family whose two teen boys are in a nationally recognized mariachi band in South Texas was reunited Monday afternoon after bipartisan criticism that the Trump administration's campaign for mass deportation overreached by detaining the family.

    Brothers Antonio Gámez-Cuéllar, 18, and Joshua, 14, were detained along with their 12-year-old brother and their parents Feb. 25. The teenage boys were prominent members of the McAllen High School Mariachi Oro band, which has visited the White House, performed at Carnegie Hall and won eight state championships.

    The two younger boys and their parents were released Monday from a family detention center in Dilley, Texas, said U.S. Rep. Joaquin Castro, a Texas Democrat who visited them, marking his third visit to the detention center.

    Antonio was released on Monday by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement from a detention center in Raymondville, Texas.

    "They were ecstatic. They were crying. They were excited to be reunited with their son and brother, Antonio, who was being held separately in Raymondville," Castro said at a news conference in San Antonio. "But their mom kept asking, 'What did we do wrong? We followed all the rules. We went to court, we haven't done anything wrong.'"

    The family had been checking in regularly with immigration authorities, as instructed, when they were detained, according to a relative and a girlfriend who organized a GoFundMe account for the family.

    The Department of Homeland Security said the parents, Emma Guadalupe Cuellar Lopez and Luis Antonio Gamez Martinez, were arrested by immigration authorities and "chose" to bring their three children with them. The department said they entered the U.S. illegally in 2023 near Brownsville, Texas.

    Efrén C. Olivares, an attorney with the National Immigration Law Center representing the eldest son, Antonio, clarified that the family entered lawfully through the CBP One app, a legal pathway, in 2023.

    "I challenge my colleagues to work together for new enforcement policies that not only secure our border but make safer communities and that ultimately are common sense," U.S. Rep. Monica de la Cruz, a Republican congresswoman representing McAllen, in Raymondville after Antonio's release.

    McAllen's Republican mayor, Javier Villalobos, said he supported the family and said he continues to advocate for "responsible pathways for law abiding individuals who want to contribute to our economy, support their families, and become productive neighbors in McAllen."
     
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    On a side note, mariachi music is one of my least favorite types of music on earth. I can't stand it
     
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    The federal government has traditionally had a very high conviction rate, but under this administration prosecution has increasingly been used as a weapon against Americans rather than for justice or pursuing criminals. That is why there have been zero convictions despite nearly 100 charges being filed.

    Americans Are Now a Target in Trump’s Immigration Crackdown - WSJ

    A WSJ investigation tracked the U.S. citizens caught in the crosshairs of an aggressive government campaign to detain and demonize dissenters

    The U.S. government says its agents are under attack. The claims reached 380 million views on X.
    Most of the alleged culprits in the tweets were U.S. citizens, denounced as terrorists, rioters and agitators.
    Yet none have been convicted at trial.
     
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    These are the kind of brains that advocate for open borders. They don't have the foresight or vision on how to build and develop infrastructure, that's always whitey, but they resent them for having the knowhow and end up plundering from their own people.
     
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    lol Debs thought the Uber driver was an ICE agent!
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    [Educational Post]
    I've studied African economies and one thing is clear. The Europeans brought huge advancements in the legal system, all forms of infrastructure, medicine, farming, mining, transportation, capital formation, business, and more. As European influence left (kicked out) various countries, all these things deteriorated. The cause and effect is very clear.

    Realistically, I think what's best for the people of Africa is to have a governing class that brings best practices... and then a working class that receives economic opportunity and the benefits of advanced society. No other formula has worked for the people in Africa -- or anywhere they have traveled globally -- and there's no reason to believe things will change. The same holds true for inner cities in the USA -- which are deteriorating to the point of no return. Governing class + working class -- the best approach. Some people just aren't good at certain things -- trying to force them into leadership roles is a mistake. How long will people be forced to live in poverty conditions before we just admit the real problem? It's sad.


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    Exactly. Democrats are too busy yelling racism to understand how much they hurt minorities (let alone others) when people like Claudine Gay and the terrible Chicago mayor are put in charge. They operate on a massive inferiority complex - when a gang of 6 robs and beats a SBO to the point of paralysis, the Chicago mayor is more concerned about the media using the word "thug" than solving the problem. So the problem gets worse as any competent person gets the hell out of that urban area, and their anger multiplies as no intelligent person wants to be around them or honest with them. All the while, those people have to support their bad habits via taxpayer dollar and the false notion that racism is keeping them down.
     
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    Even Florida's most hardline Republican sheriffs, the same ones who cheered on mass deportations, are now saying what many of us have argued for years: focus on actual criminals, not working families who haven't broken any law beyond crossing a border. This has been the bipartisan common-sense approach through administration after administration, until now. Congress, not executive overreach, is the only lasting fix, and it's long past time they do their job by passing legislation to reform immigration instead of using this issue as a political football.

    Florida Sheriffs rebel against Trump's, DeSantis' mass deportation efforts • Florida Phoenix

    Florida’s Republican sheriffs want President Donald Trump to end mass deportations of undocumented immigrants who haven’t committed crimes, a striking shift from law enforcement in the nation’s most aggressive anti-undocumented immigration state.

    “While Congress sits on their hands and does nothing about this, we are on the ground floor with this day in and day out — looking in the eyes of these folks that, yes, came here inappropriately. But some came here inappropriately only to do better for themselves and their family,” Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said Monday during a State Immigration Enforcement Council meeting.

    Judd’s comments are remarkable. A leading conservative, he’s also chair of the four-sheriff and four-police chief council tapped by Republican leaders last year to shape hardline immigration policy. He’s also a favorite of Gov. Ron DeSantis.

    Although this is a drastic break with DeSantis — who for years has insisted that any migrant illegally in the country “needs to go”— Judd’s comments come days after the White House privately told Republicans to stop talking about mass deportations.

    Judd added that a Florida Cabinet member had talked “about this kind of immigrant,” with Trump, who “was not anti-that conversation.”

    At least six of the eight council members echoed Judd during Monday’s Microsoft Teams meeting — a seventh, Jacksonville Sheriff T.K. Waters, was not present for the call. One said the state has cast “too wide of a net;” another urged Judd to write to Congress, and a third offered harsh criticisms of ICE tactics. “I wholeheartedly agree that Congress, they need to get off their butts and they need to fix it,” Charlotte County Sheriff Bill Prummell agreed. “We’re not out … just raiding business and homes, but, unfortunately, when ICE gets involved, you have the collaterals.”


    The sheriffs agreed Monday that they would jointly draft and edit the letter to Trump and Congress, imploring the administration to stop deporting undocumented immigrants without a criminal record.

    Instead, Judd suggested, they could look at civil fines, demand they learn English, or disallow them from living off the taxpayer dime.
     
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    In addition... the upcoming retirement of Greg Bovino, the face of mass deportation operations, is a reminder that public outcry and peaceful protest do matter, regardless of where you stand politically. Mass deportation has proven deeply unpopular, and the pushback from everyday Americans helped make that undeniable. That said, one departure does not fix the underlying problem, and Congress still needs to step up and do the hard work of passing real immigration reform.
     
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    I think we can replace Immigrants with Billionaires

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    You think every place needs a KING and a RULING Class
    In 1776 you would have been a Red Coat . .. a Benedict Arnold

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