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TMZ: Kobe Bryant killed in helicopter crash

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by justtxyank, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. pahiyas

    pahiyas Member

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    Do you mind sharing where did you get this information? Thanks.
     
  2. AleksandarN

    AleksandarN Member

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    Are you saying there wasn’t agreed statement or apology. Really? The content of the statement had to be negotiated as part of the settlement right?
     
  3. mig0s

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    From his ptevious personal experiences I guess.
    The accuser had sex with 2 different men within 24-48 hours. When she submitted her underwear for evidence there was seamen from another man. She then realized she didnt have enough evidence and her credibility was questionable so she didnt testify. Dropped the criminal charges and settle for a few mils in the civil court. It's all on wikipedia. Make your own judgements.
     
  4. malakas

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    Aleksandra and everyone else

    It is extremely important no matter your knowledge and opinion on this case, to realise that attitudes of Scarface and other people like him are the reason that the pain and torture rape victims go through don't just end when the rape ends.

    You didn't testify therefore you are a liar.
    You took the money therefore you are a liar.
    You went into the guy's hotel room therefore you had it coming.

    We are all working to make the world a better place.

    If you think like this, stop for a second and think of the trauma and pain a rape victim goes through.

    It could be your sister, your mother or your daughter.

    This is real pain and suffering.
    Don't make it worse by victim blaming.
     
  5. malakas

    malakas Member

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    Here is another attitude of victim blaming

    "If you had sex with others, you had a rape coming"

    Also btw your post is completely inaccurate She had the DNA of Kobe on her underwear.
     
  6. malakas

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    The only part that was demanded of him was the apology to the victim. Noone demanded that he had to admit that it wasn't consensual.

    Admitting to not consensual sex is basically admitting to rape.
    If Kobe was innocent why would he do that?
     
  7. AleksandarN

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    How do you know? As the details of the lawsuit settlement is sealed
     
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  8. AleksandarN

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    My name is Aleksandar. And I replied to scareface directly for his posts. Also you better not imply that I am victim blaming!
     
  9. malakas

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    It was reported as so. The victim requested an official apology not an official admittance of guilt.
    Again let me ask you.
    Why would an innocent man admit to rape?
    A man who upon questioning kept lying to the police until being confronted with the physical evidence.
     
  10. Nook

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    If you do research you can find transcripts of what the victim told investigators, what Bryant told investigators and what the physical evidence was.

    Bryant and the victim disagree on some points obviously.

    There is no real question about the physical evidence as it was documented. She had extensive vaginal tearing and tearing outside by her anus. The ER doctor said it was tearing that is consistent with rape. There was blood as well that was documented from the bleeding. When the investigators met with Kobe Bryant he had a white shirt with blood splatters on it. Kobe confirmed he wore the same shirt when he had sex with the victim. They took the shirt and had it tested and it was confirmed to be blood splatters from the victim. The bruising to her chin and throat was also documented.

    There were some inconsistencies in both parties stories. For example she said Bryant told her to wash her face after raping her. She later said she only looked in the mirror.

    Bryant had lots of inconsistencies. He denied that he ever had sex with the victim. He later claimed he had sex with the victim but she initiated it. Later he said he didn’t know who initiated it... at one point he says the victim never asked him to stop, then he says he stopped when she told him to... he denied there being bruises but when told there was evidence of bruising he admitted he had his hands around her throat and has “strong hands”.
     
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  11. malakas

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    I did not say that. Go read my post again. I said it is important to understand that such attitudes as Scarface's are part of the problem not your attitude.
    As for getting your username wrong, sorry.
     
  12. AleksandarN

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    Again you don’t know what was agreed to as for the contend. It was a public apology it had to go through both lawyers. How do you know this was the first statement l. There could be many drafts that lawyers didn’t agree on. How You don’t know what the extact settlement details.
     
  13. Nook

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    “White girl” couldn’t handle him? Very interesting.

    No it was rape. The ER doctor and nurse stated there was substantial tearing and bleeding that was not consistent with consensual sex and was consistent with rape.

    She had bruising on her chin and neck. There was substantial bleeding and her blood has squirted on his shirt.

    She received thousands of pieces of hate mail and someone was even arrested for planning to murder her. She did not testify at the recommendation of her mental health professionals.

    The physical evidence was overwhelming.

    She came from a wealthy family and really didn’t need money.

    He ended paying her the judicial limit in Colorado for a civil settlement (2.5 million).
     
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  14. Nook

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    She didn’t need the money for college, she came from a wealthy family.

    Concerning Bryant being squeaky image, he was a serial adulterer. He had a mistress at the time of the rape. He was busted after the time of the rape and his wife served Bryant with divorce papers several times because of his infidelities.
     
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    And yet she could have testified in the criminal case. She chose not to. If someone had raped me....I’m putting the SOB in jail.
     
  16. malakas

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    A public apology doesn't mean a public confession.
    These are two different things.

    So what if it was the final statement after 100 drafts?

    An innocent multimillionaire with the best laywers money can buy who has already had the criminal case dropped has no reason to admit guilt.
    Especially when he already paid max money.
    What did he had to gain by admitting he raped her?
     
  17. malakas

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    Just because you would, doesn't mean this is required by all victims.
     
  18. Mr.Scarface

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    Said it in the settlement statement.
     
  19. Nook

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    With all due respect.

    There is zero evidence that anyone other than Bryant and his attorneys had anything to do with the apology.

    It was not a requirement for the case to be dismissed as prosecutors do not set up agreements. Further the apology only made the prosecutor look bad because Bryant admitted to most of the elements of rape.

    The civil case had just been filed at the time of the apology and did not settle for another 8 months.
     
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  20. Mr.Scarface

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    She didnt because she had sex with another person within 24-48 hours of her Kobe encounter. She couldnt prove all those vaginal injuries were from the Kobe encounter and his lawyers would have ripped her to shreds...”slut shaming”.
     

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