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Texans trade Jadeveon Clowney to Seattle

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Aug 31, 2019.

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Do you like the trade?

Poll closed Aug 30, 2020.
  1. YES

    5.6%
  2. NO

    94.4%
  1. Nimo

    Nimo Member

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    Agreed!

    Clowney wasn't coming to training camp (common practice to avoid risk of injury when on a franchise deal) but notified the Texans (and us) that he would show up in about week 3 of preseason. (source: https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/03/jadeveon-clowney-play-texans-2019/)

    I've always thought BOB hasn't liked Clowney. I don't have proof but there are reports including one that suggests a disagreement with O'Brien about Clowney is one of the major reasons Gaine is no longer a Texan (source: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...n-signing-jadeveon-clowney-to-long-term-deal/). It makes perfect sense to have let him play one more season and see if they can work something out. If not, a trade was still possible and worst case is they get a 3rd round compensatory after having him play his butt off (contract year) for one more year.
     
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  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    They wanted a left tackle. They value that more than Clowney because its more valuable and was needed

    They didn't want to give up picks. After telling him they wanted to trade him they probably felt trading him was best for all parties to avoid conflict
     
  3. Nimo

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    There are a lot of players playing on the last year of their deal on this team. Yet no distraction. Clowney is one of the most distraction-free players. He doesn't say anything controversial. He stayed quiet from the media throughout his hold-out. He was not going to be a distraction; not any more than Bradley Roby or Whitney Mercilus was going to be.
     
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  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The excuse machine on him not signing and not showing up is weak ass i hate BoB ish so jm good with someone holding out just not practice

    We talkin bout practice
     
  5. Nimo

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    -Agreeing on a long term deal
    -Finding a trade partner before the June deadline
    -Not get outplayed by Scheider who waited for the Texans to keep dropping the price
    -Let Clowney play the year out until a team more desperate asks for him
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    They didn't want him long-term. They want to spend that money elsewhere
     
  7. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    What are you saying no to? You didn't dispute anything in my post lol.
     
  8. Nimo

    Nimo Member

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    So they had 3 other options. Did you even read my post you quoted? lol
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    There was nothing wrong with him telling Clowney about trade because it was necessary for the trade

    People are saying it was incompetent but it was necessary
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    @Nimo

    Nothing happens till he is signed. They probably didn't want to risk a long term deal and then no one wants hhim

    Once he is told about the trade he had upper hand and wanted to go to Seattle
     
  11. Nimo

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    There is no losing that way.
    He balls. Get a good trade or a compensatory pick.
    He flops. He is now available for a cheaper deal at the price which they offered him when they allegedly low-balled him.
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Or it doesn't work in terms of you don't think you're getting value.

    They had Watt Mercilus and Clowney. In playoffs no sacks and give up 200 yards rushing

    They saw enough
     
  13. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    It wasn't necessary for the trade. If signed the tender they could trade him. He wasn't going to sign the tender though when he knew they would trade him. What are you missing?
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Miami wanted him signed. What are you missing?

    Who knows if that trade is still on the table after waiting?
     
  15. Nimo

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    And the player you get rid off is one of the ones that gets double teamed the most. Whatever. It's done. They made their decision. They botched the implementation and got less value but they got the result they wanted. They wanted him gone, he is gone. That is what I get most from the Bill O'Brien the GM. He is not getting the best value but he is getting good players.
     
  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The other guys were signed

    Edit: Watt is still better now
     
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  17. gucci888

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    Why was it necessary? Clowney even said he was about to sign the tag until BoB told him he was going to trade him right after. Get him signed and then do a deal. If he doesn't like it, that's Miami's problem. Players get traded all the time without being told anything, hell it is completely common for players to find out via Sports Center, twitter, etc...nowadays. That's the business...
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    There is no guarantee deal would still be there.

    Dont wanna argue ifs and buts that arent certain. Christmas is over
     
  19. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    I'm not sure you even understand what you are reading and responding to.
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    What are you arguing specially? They should have waited and he could have traded him anywhere?
     

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