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Ukraine scandal Megathread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Sep 18, 2019.

  1. JayGoogle

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    They are justified. Trump is not a king.
     
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    Rudy is a starving energy vampire.
     
  3. Hakeemtheking

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    So any guesses as to who are some of WH leakers who provided the info to whistleblower? I am thinking Kelly Ann Conway (hubby is a known Trump hater) and Dan Coates (resigned as DNI chief three days after the infamous Trump call to the Ukraine president).
     
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    He could have just rode off into the sunset after his stint as mayor and he would have been forever remembered as this guy:

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    But yeah, around 2015 he pretty much went off the deep end with his bizarre comments about Obama. And then he hitched his trailer to Trump......
     
  5. NewRoxFan

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    So that third-hand whistleblower complain?

     
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    That author is savage.
     
  7. NewRoxFan

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    Previous tweet I posted seemed to guess Coates or Sue Gordon. Both seemed to have concerns about trump...
     
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    It started a little before that when he ran for president and didn't have any policy ideas but made sure to mention 9/11 in his speeches 5 or 6 times per minute. At the time, I thought it was silly but not really concerning. But yeah he's moved so far away from that now, that it's crazy.
     
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  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    I agree. It feels cruel to keep quoting someone who is losing his mind in public. But in this case, Rudy has a very important role and America needs to look at this in the face, his face. Very sad, and disturbing.
     
  10. Hakeemtheking

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    Coates and Gordon need to testify. They can corroborate some of the info. Also, need at least one person who was present during that phone call. The whistleblower said there were about 10 people in the room. Trump will invoke executive privilege so I don't know how this will play out. Otoh, if Trump is questioning the veracity of the complaint, he should make wh personnel available and prove it up.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Traitorous Trump is unraveling before our eyes, it was a matter of time before his corruption was just too much to bare. He already obstructed justice, but asking a foreign power to help him with a political opponent is a crime, and should be prosecuted.

    The Republicans will leave as the American population educates itself on the severity of these items......

    They will want to purge Trump and get back to proper conservativism and building their party back to what it should be...

    DD
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Traitor!

    He once had power and is so desperate to be relevant again that he is breaking the law - he is a traitor to this country.

    DD
     
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    He is a hero because he is a traitor to Trump's ****-hole county.
     
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    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Police your own, chump.

    Oh, my bad. You're not free to criticize your country without fear of massive consequences.
     
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  16. NewRoxFan

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    And...

     
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  17. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Wow. She posted that in June, before a lot of this Ukraine shake-down business.
     
  18. Hakeemtheking

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    Talking about crime, can we settle the issue on whether a crime was committed by Trump? Soliciting campaign contribution (here, services) from a foreign entity violates campaign laws and is therefore a crime. Quid Pro Quo is not necessary. It may not be a big deal for some of our more conservative CF brothers, but it's the law.

    In defense of Trump, lol, one needs to be versed in the huge bureaucracy that is the federal government. I doubt that he knew what he did was wrong.
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    Maybe they saw that Trump is obviously a crook and unfit to be president. So they're desperate to get everyone to see that and get him out of there. I'm desperate to have him gone -- more specifically, I'm desperate to see these lauded checks and balances we praise our Founding Fathers for actually working. Crooked politicians all over the country are now learning that if you can get into the Oval Office, you're untouchable.

    To be fair, they hadn't groomed us to be singularly dependent on them. There was some sticking up for Obama where Democrats were more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt than Republican critics. But, he didn't test Democrats' loyalty nearly so much as Trump does the Republicans'. Not even in the same solar system.

    The Republicans in the citizenry with a conscience mostly left, or they're laying low waiting for the Trumpism to pass. Among the politicians, they either resigned because they knew they couldn't win while opposing the president or they stay to be vilified as a RINO (e.g. Amash). In the meantime some once-Democrats who are not repulsed by corruption have come over to Trumpism. I don't think the problem is that there are no Republicans willing to oppose the president; the problem is that opposing the president effectively means you're out of the party.

    Disappointing that she won't name the problem that seems pretty obvious to me. Reversing the shift of wealth from labor to capital cannot be accomplished by an agency; it needs legislation. Her legislative solutions tend to be Robin Hood mechanisms and not structural changes.
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Ignorance of the law is no excuse, he has staff around him to tell him that, and others OBVIOUSLY knew because they tried to cover it up.

    DD
     

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