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2019 Hong Kong Protest

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. BigDog63

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    FWIW, those two statements aren't aligned. Ie, one can easily be in the working class and yet earning 67% - 200% of the median household income. In fact, if you have a primarily working class society (which most are), then by definition most working class people will fall into the middle class.
     
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    LIHKG, the online forum that propeled the protest has been shut down after massive hacking attack. All major subway stations around the protest sites today are rumored to be closed.
     
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    So to people lording US debt to China should know that the Imperial Chinese bond debt may be called upon if they want to sell off our debt. PRC denies it but compelling arguments could be made that China needs to pay up.

    "China now owes more than $1 trillion on the defaulted debt, once adjusted for inflation, interest, and other damages—a sum roughly equivalent to China’s holdings of U.S. Treasuries."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...e-war-weapon-might-just-be-antique-china-debt

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  5. rocketsjudoka

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    It's an interesting argument but one that would have little chance of success. Even if the US did successfully press for the collection of Qing Dynasty debt the PRC could still in return sell off US debt and / or just stop buying new US debt. Further such moves by the US to weaponize debt would greatly diminish global trust in US credit. Given how bad the debt is I don't think the US is in a position to weaponize debt. It would be bad for everyone but would be much worse for us.

    That said those bonds are pretty cool looking.
     
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    HK government is arresting leaders but this is largely a leaderless movement so these moves will likely inflame things than calm things down.
     
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    good find; i move this to another thread, http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/taiwan-numba-one.278895/
     
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    They are also trying to round up as many radical protesters as possible but I think they are underestimating the number of these protesters.
     
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    Thousands of protesters amassed at HK Airport right now attempting to disrupt airport operation again.

     
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    In the midst of all of the anger and strife in the World it's great to see people like this. I wish I knew how to support their efforts
     
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    The complicated views in HK now.
     
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    This is a huge risk for the protesters and one that could backfire.
     
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    Today somehow ended peacefully. Protesters decided to flee as soon as the riot police flooded the airport. Then they went to a nearby town and completely destroyed the subway station there to protest against the railway company for allegedly "colluding with the police". The police shut down the railway and blocked the major roads connecting the airport but most of the protesters somehow escaped. They played a hide-and-seek across the city but most of the protesters got away. Airport is gradually resuming its normal operation.
     
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    Seems like this is a more rational objective reporting than the western media or Chinese media.
     
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    the puppet can show that she means it by resigning
     
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    for the benefit of BruceAndre, this is yet another vivid eg of the nanny state

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    Man arrested in Singapore Changi Airport for buying ticket
    just to wave his wife off at the gate

    https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/singapore-airport-ticket-arrest/index.html
     
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    Speaking of Singapore, the PRC prefers nether communism nor democracy as a governing model and more towards Lee Kuan Yew's style of paternal authoritarianism.

    It's not a bad style...I mean social conservatives are willing to throw all thought away if it means they can feel safe and unthreatened in the warm and flabby embrace of strongman Trump.

    I suppose it's simplistic, but it serves a gentle reminder how Americans are still figuring out this democracy/oligarchy thing and should give the Chinese some credit figuring out how to make their governing system massively scalable
     
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