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anyone else tired of all the ISO ball ?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by icewill36, Mar 17, 2018.

  1. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    if it were up to these fans they'll trade our 2 best ISO players in the league for Klay and Reddick without batting an eyelash
     
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    Great ball movement and no hero ball tonight and the rockets have scored 95 points with 3 minutes left in the 3rd quarter....

    See how much better the offense is when you move the ball and don’t play iso ball?
     
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    107 points at the end of the 3rd quarter against the twolves.
     
  4. Entropy

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    The Rockets should take a lesson from our playoff series with Hakeem, Barkley, and Drexler vs the Jazz. We dumped it into our ISO players and lost, while they got tons of easy shots from their roleplayers and won. Stockton hit the dagger, but their roleplayers kept them in the game. The Rockets need to be able to play ISO AND move the ball crisply to get the easy shots.
     
  5. Zergling

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    Sooo are you tired of winning? I guess this is how "getting tired of all the winning" really feels like, since that hasn't happened under the POTUS who claimed it would happen under him.
     
  6. cerophilik

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    :)
    I’m still not tired of this much winning.
    Are you??
     
  7. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    guess how many ISO plays harden had this game compared to last?
     
  8. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    haven't hey been doing this all season that's why we got historically the best offense??
     
  9. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    and thanks to ISO step back 3 best move in bball we sealed the win
     
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    iso ball step back dagger
     
  11. YaoMing#1

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    Most playoff games turn into iso ball the last 6 min anyways.

    It’s jusy to hard to run all this motion in a tight game.

    Ppl complain about this always it never stops.

    Golden state and SA run iso for KL and KD when the game slows down.

    If they do it why would the rockets not do it.

    Team that don’t iso don’t win rings because that means they don’t have a great player.

    There is a few exceptions like the pistons team that beat the lakers or the spurs when they knocked off miami a few years ago.
     
  12. SF3isBack!!

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    I've noticed the same thing.
     
  13. BigMaloe

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    I’d like to know the numbers?
     
  14. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    This....

     
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    Rudy before he was Coach

    [​IMG]

    Rudy: "I have an idea. Let's you, me, Murph and Robert spread the floor for Moses to ISO, and just dump it into him."​

    Rick Barry: "What? No. That's too simple. Cuts, reads and passes, man."​

    Rudy after he became coach.

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    unfortunately playtypes in stats.nba.com can't be filtered by day

    but I tried looking for something else

    vs Pels - Harden held the ball 6.5 secs and dribbled 5.59 times per touch
    http://stats.nba.com/players/touche.../17/2018&TeamID=1610612745&sort=TOUCHES&dir=1

    vs Wolves - Harden held the ball 6.92 secs and dribbled 6.56 times per touch
    http://stats.nba.com/players/touche.../18/2018&TeamID=1610612745&sort=TOUCHES&dir=1

    shouldn't it be universal knowledge of coaches, teams, and even fans around the league that the only way to beat the rockets is to get the ball out of harden's and cp3's hands.. OP must be watching OKC not HOU games
     
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    I hated Harden's ISO when he first started heavily doing it a few years back, but I've come around to it. The simple fact is, once CP3 or James gets that big to switch on to them, we have a clear advantage. That big man is on an island and has to guard someone much faster than him who can whip it to an open shooter. We can try to be the Spurs all we want, but it's not how we're built, sorry.
     
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    Solid point - it takes a particular type of player to implement a read system like that. As unexciting strategically as our iso play is, it allows us to plug in guys into our offense who otherwise wouldn't be as effective in a read/react system - maybe they don't have the bball IQ, maybe they are poor passers, slow or poor decision makers, etc. It's why Gerald Green is making a difference off the bench in Houston while he is essentially useless in a system like San Antonio. It's also why Swaggy P has struggled in Golden State in any situation other than 'shoot it when I get you open and swing it to you'.
     
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    A hell of a lot more movement in the first half of last game. I only saw the first half. They definitely made it a point to push it and move the ball more.

    Unbelievable output. But lord god almighty I'm not watching that second half where they allowed 68 points at a slow pace. Take the near double digit win on a b2b and move on.
     
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    post of the week nominee
     

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