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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Sep 23, 2017.

  1. Anticope

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    Peaceful protesting is fine as long as its done at a time and a place that's acceptable to conservatives. If it's done during their football time, then they'll just stop watching football. That'll show those liberals!
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    God I hope you are trolling because that is EXACTLY circular logic.
     
  3. TheRealist137

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    Yeah bury your head in the sand and ignore the vast amounts of research that show how poorly blacks are treated in comparison to whites in America. That will make people take you seriously.
     
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  4. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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  5. fchowd0311

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    Yes you did determine 'that'.

    There is no 'fact' in regards to the 'right place and right time'. It's subjective. You are making a subjective claim and claiming it to be objective.
     
  6. Anticope

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  7. bigtexxx

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    Great!

    ...or do you have some kind of problem with that?
     
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    Some day I hope they get set free.
     
  9. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    #469 DonnyMost, Sep 25, 2017
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  10. fchowd0311

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    I guess we can solve every issue in this manner.

    "Is the matter urgently life threatening or as bad as slavery?"

    "No."

    "Well then we can ignore it and facetiously joke about it".
     
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  11. TheRealist137

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    Bobby during the civil rights era protests.

    "Some day I hope MLK Jr. is set free"
     
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  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Ah, the old ignorant strawman argument. Good job kiddo.

    I like how people like you disrespect legitimate causes by conflating them with illegitimate causes. I guess you just can't help yourself.
     
  13. bigtexxx

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    Does the "take a knee crew" really think they have a justifiable position here? Disrespecting the national anthem is the best place to raise your social concerns? Come on. This is a losing position.
     
  14. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    A losing position with people completely obsessed with honor culture and virtue signaling about patriotism.

    But for the majority of society we see it as a perfectly normal and acceptable form of peaceful demonstration, and go on about our lives unphased.

    You should join us.
     
  15. TheRealist137

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    well childishly burying your head in the sand can make any cause seem illegitimate to a person. You can view anything as illegitimate by ignoring data. Doesn't make it reality and it doesn't make your opinion on an ill-informed subject matter correct.
     
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    I wonder if Trump miscalculated the economic pressure his comments could make. I think he was thinking that his sentiments would be echoed by football fans; and owners, not wanting to lose fans, would incrementally shun the protesting players come contract time, reducing their earning power and putting a chilling effect on political speech from professional athletes. Instead, what seems to be happening is that the NFL recognizes that football fans will have a hard time not watching and are instead concerned that, come contract time, the players will shun their team if they say the wrong thing. Owners have no choice but to show solidarity with the players against Trump or run the risk that players will go to more politically-friendly rivals. And even if fans love the stand the owner takes to 'honor our heritage' they still won't spend dollars because the team won't be competitive.
     
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  17. bigtexxx

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    Virtue signalling = honoring our fallen military vets? No. You're warped, bro.
     
  18. bigtexxx

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    I think you'll see people stop watching. It's already had an impact even before this weekend. Owners have no choice but to defend players for fear of being labeled a racist (ridiculous, but true), but the net result will be fewer people watching and caring about the NFL.
     
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    I hear these are selling like hotcakes to both liberals and conservatives. Buy killerdoormats.com stock now!

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  20. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    Virtue Signal Received!

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    You are indeed the most patriotic of all and I am dead veteran hating scum. Keep on keeping on, Patriot!
     

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