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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

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  1. FranchiseBlade

    FranchiseBlade Contributing Member
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    Yeah, your post isn't really relevant, accurate, nor does it provide any legitimate reason to fire Mueller.
     
  2. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    He was appointed by someone who is part of the current administration and serves at the pleasure of the president. That person doesn't see anything wrong with Mueller's associations.
     
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    Rosenstein said as long as he is in charge, he is not going to fire Mueller without a good cause, so Trump better start by firing Rosenstein first.
     
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    Jeff Sessions Can't Recall What He Forgot To Remember

     
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    Remember how for like a whole week Trump and his fans felt "vindicated" because Comey said Trump wasn't under investigation??

    Welp
     
  6. JeffB

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    Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...28ba60fbb98_story.html?utm_term=.1778c4a867e4

    The special counsel overseeing the investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 election is interviewing senior intelligence officials as part of a widening probe that now includes an examination of whether President Trump attempted to obstruct justice, officials said.

    The move by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III to investigate Trump’s conduct marks a major turning point in the nearly year-old FBI investigation, which until recently focused on Russian meddling during the presidential campaign and on whether there was any coordination between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin. Investigators have also been looking for any evidence of possible financial crimes among Trump associates, officials said.

    Trump had received private assurances from then-FBI Director James B. Comey starting in January that he was not personally under investigation. Officials say that changed shortly after Comey’s firing.

    Five people briefed on the requests, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, said Daniel Coats, the current director of national intelligence, Mike Rogers, head of the National Security Agency, and Rogers’s recently departed deputy, Richard Ledgett, agreed to be interviewed by Mueller’s investigators as early as this week. The investigation has been cloaked in secrecy, and it is unclear how many others have been questioned by the FBI.

    The NSA said in statement that it will “fully cooperate with the special counsel” and declined to comment further. The office of the director of national intelligence and Ledgett declined to comment.

    The White House now refers all questions about the Russia investigation to Trump’s personal attorney, Marc Kasowitz. “The FBI leak of information regarding the president is outrageous, inexcusable and illegal,” said Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Kasowitz.

    The officials said Coats, Rogers and Ledgett would appear voluntarily, though it remains unclear whether they will describe in full their conversations with Trump and other top officials or will be directed by the White House to invoke executive privilege. It is doubtful the White House could ultimately use executive privilege to try to block them from speaking to Mueller’s investigators. Experts point out that the Supreme Court ruled during the Watergate scandal that officials cannot use privilege to withhold evidence in criminal prosecutions.

    The obstruction-of-justice investigation of the president began days after Comey was fired on May 9, according to people familiar with the matter. Mueller’s office has now taken up that work, and the preliminary interviews scheduled with intelligence officials indicate his team is actively pursuing potential witnesses inside and outside the government.

    The interviews suggest Mueller sees the question of attempted obstruction of justice as more than just a “he said, he said” dispute between the president and the fired FBI director, an official said.

    Probing Trump for possible crimes is a complicated affair, even if convincing evidence of a crime were found. The Justice Department has long held that it would not be appropriate to indict a sitting president. Instead, experts say, the onus would be on Congress to review any findings of criminal misconduct and then decide whether to initiate impeachment proceedings.

    Comey confirmed publicly in congressional testimony on March 20 that the bureau was investigating possible coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

    Soon after, Trump spoke to Coats and Rogers about the Russia investigation.

    Officials said one of the exchanges of potential interest to Mueller took place on March 22, less than a week after Coats was confirmed by the Senate to serve as the nation’s top intelligence official.

    Coats was attending a briefing at the White House with officials from several other government agencies. When the briefing ended, as The Washington Post previously reported, Trump asked everyone to leave the room except for Coats and CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

    Coats told associates that Trump had asked him whether Coats could intervene with Comey to get the bureau to back off its focus on former national security adviser Michael Flynn in its Russia probe, according to officials. Coats later told lawmakers that he never felt pressured to intervene.
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    Trump may still be exonerated by Mueller and Mueller's team. And if nothing is there, one would hope the gravity of the situation and investigation would lead the administration to respect our traditions of transparency and to both comply with the office of government ethics and respect the independence of our intelligence, justice and law enforcement agencies.

    So much of this, provide Trump and his campaign and administration are clean, is so easily avoidable. But I don't put it past Trump to raise the stakes on this one by firing the special investigator.
     
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    The obstruction charge will be and is being spun as a partisan attack. But that Mueller's team is looking at possible financial crimes is also big news.
     
  8. KingCheetah

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    It's not the crime, it's the cover up.
     
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    I think the concern is if Trump instructed the three intelligence officials to undermine the FBI investigation. I have a hard time believing it's true because that is literally what Nixon did that got him in trouble.
     
  10. justtxyank

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    He's in trouble
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I'm sure Sessions has something to hide. Always catching those Russians vacationing in the Mississippi shore


    Good Lord this stuff is ridiculous
     
  12. KingCheetah

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    Ur trying to hard.
     
  13. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I'm sure he's hiding something

    He's always hanging in Moscow
     
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    Trump gotta Trump.

    Methinks that there is 99% chance that Trump does not know what Nixon did to get forced out of office.
     
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    Did you get a head injury during your time away? Not kidding.
     
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    I swear to you I have been wondering exactly the same thing.
     
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    I do not yet think Mueller needs to be tossed out as the special prosecutor. However, before going a step further, he needs to undergo a thorough grilling by both the House and Senate panels investigating the collusion/obstruction allegations. Mueller needs to be thoroughly questioned about his close friendship with Comey. All of their conversations need to be closely examined. If Mueller is compromised, he should recuse himself.
     
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    I think that Mueller might have to step down if Comey's testimony would play any factor in his investigation due to their personal friendship especially when you consider that Comey is a disgruntled former employee with an ax to grind with the person that is being investigated assuming the story is true. I mean even if he's not truly compromised by that friendship, at bare minimum there is the appearance of impropriety and the reason you appoint a special counsel to begin with is to avoid that.
     
  19. pgabriel

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    I'm sure stated rights mississipians and former KGB guys like Putin have so much in common

    You guys are all hard NADA has been proven or really even alleged

    Dude sounded like Gump he must be guilty of something

    Whatever
     
  20. larsv8

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    What we really need to hope for is too get Trump under oath. He is such a pathological liar, he will either perjure himself, or have to do a complete 180 on 80% of the things he has said.
     

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