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  1. TEXNIFICENT

    TEXNIFICENT Member

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    Spurs were a better team my friend. Rox have to get better. Blaming Harden isn't the answer, the WHOLE team has to get better, besides the Rox would have been beaten by the Warriors.
     
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  2. YOLO

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    i find it hard to believe a no kawhi and no parker team is 40 pts better than the rockets. blame, calling out, holding him accountable whatever you want to call it. it's absolutely starts with him with that pathetic display and lack thereof of actual competent basketball from houstons "leader"

    doesnt matter what would have happened with GS. that has nothing to do with the spurs rockets matchup. not relevant here
     
  3. TEXNIFICENT

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    Spurs were 4-2 better than the Rox. They have a better coach and they have a better roster. Rox have to improve.
     
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    you can say all you want about how they're better. still doesn't change the fact that harden gave up/quit
     
  5. TEXNIFICENT

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    You can cry about Harden quitting all you want but it doesn't change the fact that:
    Spurs had a better regular season record,
    Spurs have a better coach,
    Spurs had a better roster,
    and the Spurs won 4 out of 6 playoff games. Harden was pathetic but give the Spurs credit, they were the superior team. The Rox have to get better.
     
  6. YOLO

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    and you can ramble all you want about how the spurs are better at this and that. a no kawhi and no parker team is not a better roster. and the 4 out of 6 is after the fact its over. so your points youre trying to support yourself with aren't exactly telling us anything.
     
  7. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    Fucc it, take a **** in a bucket.

    Trade harden for a lebron and durant package
     
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  8. eman

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    Haren for Love/Felder/picks would please me greatly
     
  9. TEXNIFICENT

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    Wow. Amazing. SMH.
     
  10. lakersuck2

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    High picks =/= star players. You can have 10 top 3 picks over several years and not a single star. The problem is thinking tanking will result in the best possible outcome. Being bad a few years does not mean you'll be good the next few. Are you willing to risk 3 years of being terrible and 7 years of being mediocre? I'm not saying that's what's gonna happen but you'll definitely risk it If you trade harden for "potential". In this league you need multiple stars and for multiple stars you have you start with 1 star. The easiest way for us to have a star is to hold on to the one we have now.
     
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    And if you whiff on stars in the draft, your team would continue to be bad and earn more high lottery picks. At some point, you'd get a star.

    If you truly don't believe that Harden can lead a team to a championship, then the logical course of action is to rebuild. Otherwise, you'd have 5 years of being mediocre (the Harden years), 3 years of being terrible, and 7 more years of being mediocre.

    It depends on the star. If we're talking about Curry, Leonard, or Lebron, then yes. Absolutely. But we're talking about Harden. Why would stars want to play with Harden?
     
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    What is this crap? Curry carried his team to championship, and won multiple MVPs. Did Spurs ever win over his team without 2 starters including their best player?
     
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    They played bad but they still competed. James is the one the whole team plays around. If he decides hes not interested in winning, im not sure how his coach & teammates are accountable for that
     
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    so for all the wins Harden gets sole credit and for all the losses he gets the sole blame?
     
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    this is 1 of the dumbest posts I have ever seen in my life

    could easily be a nominee for top 5 dumbest things said on Clutchfans in the last year
     
  16. rcketsfan1

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    I disagree that the Spurs are a better team. The Spurs are a better COACHED team. D'Antoni is a joke of a coach. If Harden was playing for the Spurs he might not be NBA MVP but he would be the most feared player in the NBA. If we want to get better as a team, we need to move on from Mike 'just score and we will win' D'Antoni. Defense wins championships. GSW are not a model for offense wins championships because they actually are very good defensively with Iguodala, Green, Thompson, etc. Fire D'Antoni!
     
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    How many players have been drafted in the last 5 years that are Harden level? 2. Giannis and KAT. One at 15 and another at 1. There is no guarantee that in 10 years of being bad you'll get a Harden level player. Look at Orlando and the Kings. If our next 10 years are like the Kings' last 10 years would you still be a Rockets fan? I know i will. And if you think what we have now is mediocre you either have amnesia or you subconsciously erased the late 2000s and early 2010s from your memory to protect your own psyche.
     
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  18. rcketsfan1

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    Harden needs a coach that can teach him how to make other players better without changing position. I'm sure Jordan would have become a better facilitator (especially statistically) when Phil Jackson came on board if he changed to point guard, but that would have almost certainly prevented the team from winning a championship. Harden is the answer and not the problem.
     
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    Before Morey got harden... everybody was pissed at Les bc he wouldn't let us tank... and everybody knew that a high draft pick was the only way to get a superstar.... Now, most dont even want to entertain the possibility of trading harden b/c high draft picks are such a gamble with such little chance of prosperity... lmao and smh....
     
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  20. daywalker02

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    The same game with Les Alexander. If he had tanked, at least we would be left with some good to borderline allstar role players or bench players that could make plays when Harden could not in the postseason.

    Getting good players and waiting for the right moment to trade for a star player is legit.

    Not mutually exclusive.

    To be fair, Mauri got us some useful role players.
     

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